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MESL



Joined: 23 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: Public school nightmare Reply with quote

Met a foreign teacher who works in a public school in Seoul. She teaches 25 lessons a week. She has 25 classes. One lesson per week per class. No team teacher. No translator. Home room teachers leave because they will lose face if she asks for help and they don't understand what she says. Textbook notes are in Korean.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: Public school nightmare Reply with quote

MESL wrote:
Met a foreign teacher who works in a public school in Seoul. She teaches 25 lessons a week. She has 25 classes. One lesson per week per class. No team teacher. No translator. Home room teachers leave because they will lose face if she asks for help and they don't understand what she says. Textbook notes are in Korean.


Yeah, can be tough. Just got to try to take the initiative and grow.
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She should be thankful the Korean leaves her to teach.
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passport220



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not want to be unsupportive to the actual teacher. However, nothing you describe seems wrong. It is a teacher in a classroom with students. In line with what Butlerian wrote, suggest she develop interesting lessons as best she can and teach them.
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oxfordstu



Joined: 28 Aug 2004
Location: Bangkok

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing I see that's bad is that the textbooks are in Korean. Other than that, she only has to plan one lesson per week, so it seems like that would be pretty easy, even boring after awhile.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think she has a great opportunity to plan and perfect lesson plans and deliveries. By the end of the first day on a particular lesson plan, she will know what works, what doesn't, and where to go given X responses. Very cool. A whole lot better than having to plan 25 lesson plans a week!
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the Kyeonggi PoE meeting, they mentioned that 60% of foreign teachers want the Korean teacher to lead the lesson.

I think this is retarded. They are basically expecting that the Korean teacher will do their job for them. Why bother hiring a foreign teacher if aren't even responsible for preparing and delivering lesson?

On the other hand, you can hardly blame someone inexperienced as a teacher and new in Korea for not wanting to lead a class. The public school jobs need to be a lot more honest to who they're hiring about the job expectations (don't go with the silly facade of team-teaching if it isn't happening), and they have to be a lot more honest with themselves about what they can expect a foreign teacher is capable of doing.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bosintang wrote:
At the Kyeonggi PoE meeting, they mentioned that 60% of foreign teachers want the Korean teacher to lead the lesson.


that goes along with my assumption that at least 60% of foreign teachers have the heads up their asses.
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWhitehead wrote:
bosintang wrote:
At the Kyeonggi PoE meeting, they mentioned that 60% of foreign teachers want the Korean teacher to lead the lesson.


that goes along with my assumption that at least 60% of foreign teachers have the heads up their asses.


I bet *at least* 60% of foreign teachers were hired from abroad with no teaching experience. I'm sure it wouldn't take a statistical genius to make a correlation.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP. There may be a clause in the PoE that says there MUST be a Korean teacher in the classroom with you. I know there is in EPIK Kyeoung Buk. I don't adhere to it, but it's nice to know it's there to fall back on.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
OP. There may be a clause in the PoE that says there MUST be a Korean teacher in the classroom with you. I know there is in EPIK Kyeoung Buk. I don't adhere to it, but it's nice to know it's there to fall back on.


I thought it was a legal requirement that there be a Korean teacher with the native teacher at all times? I believe it is because we aren;t licensed to teach in Korea.

Anyway, I wouldn't want the Korean teacher to lead my class. My class is my class.
I like, most of the time, having Korean teachers in my class. They are v. helpful to explain difficult vocab and to help the not so bright students and also deal with discipline.

ilovebdt
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