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[Demonicat]

Thats not my point. My point is that we as a world have become waaaay to sensitive, especially in regards to the jews. What happened to free speech? Does that only apply to PC statements? I say let them say what in the hell they want, god knows we do. Ever been slipped a "mickey"? Ever been gyped?

[Alyallen]

[quote="stevemcgarrett"]Dean Martin:

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[Zolt]

[Troll_Bait]

I just re-read my CNN link again more carefully, and noted this:

[stevemcgarrett]

Troll Bait:

Bravo. Not only is he ignorant but as you have revealed he's not even in the field of American cultural studies. And for him to infer fact from a popularly held belief (in this case about Jews in the media) is ridiculous and doesn't reflect well on his university. Shame on them too.

Sodem:

[doggyji]

The notion of the "Jew control" is just some idiot's wildest wet dream? I don't know much about it. Where is it coming from? Some individual's imagination? Please enlighten me.

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[stevemcgarrett]

Hater Depot:

[mervsdamun]

[stevenpa]

[stevemcgarrett]

stevenpa:

I'm not without concern for the antics of the Likud Party's right wing nor do I condone settlements in the West Bank. But in recent years there has been an effort to limit the number.

Call it the spoils of war if one must, but it was Israel that was attacked in each instance. After the Pacific war, the U.S. retained control of several Japanese archipelagos (most of which have subsequently been relinquished) and Russia still stubbornly retains the Kuril Islands and part of Sakhalin.

Surrounded by hostile neighbors in narrow corridors of territory, some of whom called for the destruction of Israel until very recently, it shouldn't surprise critics in the West that Israel clung to these occupied territories.

Arafat lost sight of the big prize in his petty power grab. Even Clinton and his ever-so-patient liberal foreign policy advisors could not sway him to accept what amounted to a very reasonable peace deal.

The bombs and missiles have been hurled intermittently for decades from southern Lebanon and now Gaza and yet when the Israeli forces go in to clean out these areas they're accused of provocation. No other nation would tolerate such relentless intrusions, not to mention the acts of outright terrorism. No other nation would be able to withstand developing something of a siege mentality. And with Hamas, Hizbollah, and Iran refusing to acknowledge Israel's right to exist that mentality isn't likely to disappear any time soon. The new wall is literally a concrete indication of that fear.

On my recent trip to Thailand (and Nepal) I befriended a middle-aged Israeli couple, both highly educated members of the Labor Party and very reasonable people. Both genuinely worried that Israel might not be around a decade from now, that the forces of ill will in the Arab world would eventually have their way. I found myself in the uncomfortable position of trying to reassure them that the U.S. would never allow that to happen. While they were grateful for the support, they still doubted the outcome. Imagine how much worse this sentiment must be among the less informed.

Yes, both sides have their agendas but I don't here a majority of Israelis calling for Palestinians to be wiped off the map or giving tacit approval to terrorist acts. I hear a lot of soul-searching and debate, sometimes even condemnation in the Knesset but nothing even remotely on the same scale in Arab legislatures.

Let's keep a sense of perspective here, shall we?

[Rteacher]

The reaction to the comic strip partly proves the assertion that Jews have had inordinate influence on mass media. (Of course, the Internet has countered that to a large degree ...)

When Muhammad was portrayed in a way considered offensive by many Muslims in cartoons printed in western publications, there was a massive outcry - about the assault on free speech and freedom of the press...

Free speech or press apparently doesn't apply if Jews are offended - even mildly...

[Demonicat]

thank you for saying so much more eloquently what I was trying to get at.

[stevemcgarrett]

RTeacher: