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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Favorite Poem Reply with quote

Hey lets post links to our favorite poems. I realise there is already a thread on this but I would like it if people could post links to the authors reading the poems if that is possible. I always understand the poem better if I can hear the person who wrote it.

So please post links to spoken versions of your fave poems. If you can't find spoken versions, written ones will do. A little analysyis on the poem and why you like it would be cool too.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i'll start off even though this isn't quite my favorite.

this is by seamus heaney and its called "Mossbawn Sunlight"..

i love this poem because i didn't understand it when i first read it for school. I gave it to my mom who is from the same generation and background as the author and she explained it to me. What I love about it really is the memory of her face as she read it out loud with complete conviction first time..she knew what it was about alright. She explained the words but i never really got the essence of this poem as I could tell she had. All she said really was he had put into words something that she had always known but never said..or words to that effect.

Press play to hear the poem..

http://www.poetryarchive.org/poetryarchive/singlePoem.do?poemId=1393
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the1andonly



Joined: 08 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Razors pain you
Rivers are damp.
Acids stain you
Drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful
Nooses give.
Gas smells awful
You might as well live.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the1andonly wrote:
Razors pain you
Rivers are damp.
Acids stain you
Drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren't lawful
Nooses give.
Gas smells awful
You might as well live.


who is the author? Have you any reasons why you like this poem? I would rather if you gave a little background to a poem and why you lile it, and if possible an audio link so we can hear it.


I don't really unserstand it at the moment, so a little insight would be nice. Is it about suicide?
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catycat



Joined: 05 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Raglan Road by Patrick Kavanagh (or anything by P K, for that matter). I remember studying his poems for the leaving cert, and its hard to pick only one, but I think Raglan Road is it.


On Raglan Road of an Autumn day
I saw her first and knew,
That her dark hair would weave a snare
That I might someday rue.
I saw the danger and I passed
Along the enchanted way.
And I said,"Let grief be a fallen leaf
At the dawning of the day."

On Grafton Street in November, we
Tripped lightly along the ledge
Of a deep ravine where can be seen
The worth of passion play.
The Queen of Hearts still making tarts
And I not making hay;
Oh, I loved too much and by such and such
Is happiness thrown away.

I gave her gifts of the mind,
I gave her the secret signs,
That's known to the artists who have known
The true gods of sound and stone.
And her words and tint without stint
I gave her poems to say
With her own name there and her own dark hair
Like clouds over fields of May.

On a quiet street where old ghosts meet
I see her walking now,
And away from me so hurriedly
My reason must allow.
That I had loved, not as I should
A creature made of clay,
When the angel woos the clay, he'll lose
His wings at the dawn of day.




BTW, I love to hear Luke Kelly sing this song.
You should sing my song,' and I said 'What's that, Mr Kavanagh?' and he said 'Raglan Road''. So he gave me permission. I got permission from the man himself.' (Geraghty, Luke Kelly 38f)
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

catycat wrote:
I love Raglan Road by Patrick Kavanagh (or anything by P K, for that matter). I remember studying his poems for the leaving cert, and its hard to pick only one, but I think Raglan Road is it.


On Raglan Road of an Autumn day
I saw her first and knew,
That her dark hair would weave a snare
That I might someday rue.
I saw the danger and I passed
Along the enchanted way.
And I said,"Let grief be a fallen leaf
At the dawning of the day."

On Grafton Street in November, we
Tripped lightly along the ledge
Of a deep ravine where can be seen
The worth of passion play.
The Queen of Hearts still making tarts
And I not making hay;
Oh, I loved too much and by such and such
Is happiness thrown away.

I gave her gifts of the mind,
I gave her the secret signs,
That's known to the artists who have known
The true gods of sound and stone.
And her words and tint without stint
I gave her poems to say
With her own name there and her own dark hair
Like clouds over fields of May.

On a quiet street where old ghosts meet
I see her walking now,
And away from me so hurriedly
My reason must allow.
That I had loved, not as I should
A creature made of clay,
When the angel woos the clay, he'll lose
His wings at the dawn of day.




BTW, I love to hear Luke Kelly sing this song.
You should sing my song,' and I said 'What's that, Mr Kavanagh?' and he said 'Raglan Road''. So he gave me permission. I got permission from the man himself.' (Geraghty, Luke Kelly 38f)


Here's the man himself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuafmLvoJow
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faster



Joined: 03 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a couple by Marvin Gardens. I don't know much about him but he did a public reading on the street in Chicago when I lived there (1995) and it was terrifying. I also saw a guy reading on the street in Portland, 6 years later, claiming to be him, so I'm a bit confused:

Ben Affleck


Ben Affleck's dangerous knowledge of this guilty secret drew unwelcome attention.
Unaware of the breadth of this surveillance, Affleck nonetheless more
than once found himself brushed by a heavy hand.

During an evening walk he was suddenly surprised by an unusual
bright light that appeared to fall on him causing his whole body to tremble.
Assuming he was having a heart attack, he hurried home and lay down,
not knowing what to expect.

After a while, the light that filled his whole body went away,
and Ben Affleck felt himself moved, not by his own will
but by a different impulse from within himself.
He wondered what could be moving him so strongly, but
since he felt calm and conscious he just followed the motions
as they developed.

Poetry insists on this illusion,
(even the most sensitive apparatus always leaves something
to be desired) - forcing it, breaking it,
embodying it...
we shall see what strategies enjoyed literary
currency in this regard.



Of Course, There Were Notable Exceptions

Brute power unfolding there
the cement of mendacity holding white society
together swiftly disintegrates
as happens with so many aspects of our work.

This sounds exotic and poetic now, some
34 years after it was chosen,
it is already empty and hollow
because at home there is a Trojan Horse
that has become aware of itself
and is now struggling to get on its feet
but we cannot play our double game for long.

Subsequently produced on the stage as well.
Most of the audience was annoyed
as were some of the participants
none of whom were informed beforehand.

There is nothing left over.
There are cops everywhere.
The Body is tropical, warm, hot: fire!


Koan

You have the same shoes as I,
but I got mine cheaper than you,
but you have a job.


Correctional Facility

1. Somebody wants you dead.
2. You've just been given a soulful kiss!
3. You just woke up from a dream about your best friend's father...
4. You are so bored. You're in detention & are daydreaming. You are so bored.
5. You are in love with each other but are afraid to say so.
6. You are new neighbors meeting for the first time.
7. You are sick & tired.
8. You are telling your parents that you are pregnant.
9. You are spies, sent from a foreign land to learn secrets.
10. You're driving a truck on a dirt road in the summer & you have nowhere to go.
11. You've never met, but here you are, wearing each others' pants.
12. You each have one piece of the Magickal Amulet of Universal Truth. You must combine the pieces to form the Amulet & then Heavenly Light will shine on you forever!
13. You've been given a choice that will affect everything in your future. You have a few minutes to think about it.
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO:

Quote:
I always understand the poem better if I can hear the person who wrote it.


While that might be true for someone like Dylan Thomas, it's hardly the case for Robert Frost.

But if anyone can find it, I would be eternally greatful for a link to a famed Caedmon recording of Whitman's "When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd" by the great narrator Alexander Scourby.
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tumbleweed_marijane



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Jane-Charles Bukowski

225 days under grass
and you know more than I.
they have long taken your blood,
you are a dry stick in a basket.
is this how it works?
in this room
the hours of love
still make shadows.

when you left
you took almost
everything.
I kneel in the nights
before tigers
that will not let me be.

what you were
will not happen again.
the tigers have found me
and I do not care.

the nakedness of his grief and sense of loss is horrifying. newly loved.
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merlot



Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: I tried to contain myself but I escaped.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have eaten
the plums
that were in
the icebox

and which
you were probably
saving
for breakfast.

Forgive me
they were delicious
so sweet
and so cold.

-- William Carlos Williams
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

merlot:

One of the best imagist poems ever written. Wish that Williams had been my personal physician. Talking about poetry, I'd have nearly forgotten whatever pain I was in.
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Through these long winter holidays, I've been revisiting the guy who first turned me on to many things, in particular Li Po and lots of Asian poetry - Kenneth Rexroth.

He wrote a great and quiet poem - A letter to WCW. In part he wrote,

Quote:
It�s a wonderful quiet
You have, a way of keeping
Still about the world, and its
Dirty rivers, and garbage cans,
Red wheelbarrows glazed with rain,
Cold plums stolen from the icebox,
And Queen Anne�s lace, and day�s eyes,
And leaf buds bursting over
Muddy roads, and splotched bellies
With babies in them, and Cortes
And Malinche on the bloody
Causeway, the death of the flower world.

Nowadays, when the press reels
With chatterboxes, you keep still,
Each year a sheaf of stillness,
Poems that have nothing to say,
Like the stillness of George Fox,
Sitting still under the cloud
Of all the world�s temptation,
By the fire, in the kitchen,
In the Vale of Beavor. And
The archetype, the silence
Of Christ, when he paused a long
Time and then said, �Thou sayest it.�


My favourite Rexroth poem is definitely, Thou Shalt Not Kill. It's cadence, control and boldness are deafening and it is immortal and touches even (and especially) our age.

If anyone wants to visit a writer who did it all, his own way, there is a great online archive. http://www.bopsecrets.org/rexroth/

In part, because this poem is very long and ranging in its history and arguement.

Quote:
THOU SHALT NOT KILL
A Memorial for Dylan Thomas

I

They are murdering all the young men.
For half a century now, every day,
They have hunted them down and killed them.
They are killing them now.
At this minute, all over the world,
They are killing the young men.
They know ten thousand ways to kill them.
Every year they invent new ones.
In the jungles of Africa,
In the marshes of Asia,
In the deserts of Asia,
In the slave pens of Siberia,
In the slums of Europe,
In the nightclubs of America,
The murderers are at work.

They are stoning Stephen,
They are casting him forth from every city in the world.
Under the Welcome sign,
Under the Rotary emblem,
On the highway in the suburbs,
His body lies under the hurling stones.
He was full of faith and power.
He did great wonders among the people.
They could not stand against his wisdom.
They could not bear the spirit with which he spoke.
He cried out in the name
Of the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness.
They were cut to the heart.
They gnashed against him with their teeth.
They cried out with a loud voice.
They stopped their ears.
They ran on him with one accord.
They cast him out of the city and stoned him.
The witnesses laid down their clothes
At the feet of a man whose name was your name �
You. ..............................

There he lies dead,
By the Iceberg of the United Nations.
There he lies sandbagged,
At the foot of the Statue of Liberty.
The Gulf Stream smells of blood
As it breaks on the sand of Iona
And the blue rocks of Canarvon.
And all the birds of the deep sea rise up
Over the luxury liners and scream,
�You killed him! You killed him.
In your God damned Brooks Brothers suit,
You son of a bitch.�
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tsumetai mizu



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a great reading of a great poem. Dylan Thomas is the reader. Brings up a lot of memories as I read this poem at my father's funeral a few years back.


Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night

Dylan Thomas


Do not go gentle into that good night,

Old age should burn and rave at close of day;

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.



Though wise men at their end know dark is right,

Because their words had forked no lightning they

Do not go gentle into that good night.



Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright

Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.



Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,

And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,

Do not go gentle into that good night.



Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight

Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.



And you, my father, there on the sad height,

Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.

Do not go gentle into that good night.

Rage, rage against the dying of the light

http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15377
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Kenneth Rexroth is great.

I've been reading George Oppen for 16 years and haven't even come close to exhausting the meaning in his work.
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Omkara



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: USA

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

faster wrote:
Yeah, Kenneth Rexroth is great.

I've been reading George Oppen for 16 years and haven't even come close to exhausting the meaning in his work.


There is a great song by Greg Brown, called "Looking for Rexroth's Daughter." Look for it; you might like it.

Greg Brown is a great folk singer out of the American Mid-West.

Here are the words--but you really must hear it.

coldest night of the winter working up my farewell
in the middle of everything under no particular spell
i am dreaming of the mountains where the children learn the stars
clouds roll in from nebraska dark chords on a big guitar
my restlessness is long gone i would stand here like an old jack pine
but I'm looking for rexroth's daughter the friend of a friend of mine

i can't believe your hands and mouth did all that to me
are so daily naked for all the world to see
that thunderstorm in michigan i never will forget
we shook right with the thunder & with the pounding rain got wet
where did you turn when you turned from me with your arms across your chest
i am looking for rexroth's daughter i saw her in the great northwest

would she have said it was the wrong time if I had found her then
i don't want too much a field across the road and a few good friends
she used to come & see me but she was always there & gone
even the very longest love does not last too long
she'd stand there in my doorway smoothing out her dress
& say "this life is a thump-ripe melon--so sweet and such a mess"

i wanted to get to know you but you said you were shy
i would have followed you anywhere but hello rolled into goodbye
i just stood there watching as you walked along the fence
beware of them that look at you as an experience
you're back out on the highway with your poems of city heat
& I'm looking for rexroth's daughter here on my own side street

the murderer who lived next door seemed like such a normal guy--
if you try to follow what they shove at us you run out of tears to cry
i heard a man speak quietly i listened for a while
he spoke from his heart to my woe & then he bowed & smiled
what is real but compassion as we move from birth to death
i am looking for rexroth's daughter & I'm running out of breath

spring will come back i know it will & it will do its best
so useful so endangered like a lion or a breast
i think about my children when i look at any child's face
& pray that we will find a way to get with all this amazing grace
it's so cold out there tonight so stormy i can hardly see
& i'm looking for rexroth's daughter & i guess i always will be
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