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| What do you think of "The Secret" |
| Not new but it's true |
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| New and true! Get The Secret today! |
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| New and complete mumbo jumbo, $$$ scheme |
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| Not new and not true, it's wishful thinking or worse |
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| I haven't read TIME mag, seen Oprah, Larry King, DVD, book,... dunno what it is at all |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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 Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:20 am Post subject: "The Secret" |
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Self-actualization, visualizing goals, believe you can be the best you can be...
re-packaged with high school physics and some pop psyche stuff and some hype
and voila
sounds new, sounds deep, ... same old, same old
that's my take... yours? |
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skinhead
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:21 am Post subject: |
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What the heck do you think!
Surely someone else has at least heard about this year's #1 New York Times bestseller? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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More new age bull pucky that tries to use quantum mechanics as the latest scientific theory to give itself a wash of plausibility. It used to be magnets, radio waves, radiation, synchronicity, yaddie yaddie.
So if you think really hard that you want a pony that farts rainbows... you'll get it! Simple.
Didn't I read this crap in The Alchemist? Just, you know, follow your dream. All wrapped up in 200 pages. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Pretty interesting. Nothing particularly new, but they did at least repackage in a way that is simple to understand. The truth about this kind of stuff has been out there for a long time, but like anything that takes effort, most people don't persist with it. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
More new age bull pucky that tries to use quantum mechanics as the latest scientific theory to give itself a wash of plausibility. It used to be magnets, radio waves, radiation, synchronicity, yaddie yaddie.
So if you think really hard that you want a pony that farts rainbows... you'll get it! Simple.
Didn't I read this crap in The Alchemist? Just, you know, follow your dream. All wrapped up in 200 pages. |
Does anyone else think The Alchemist was the biggest pile of airy-fairy trite tripe you've ever read? Truly awful. I despair for the generation that has made that book a "must-read". |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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More new age bull pucky that tries to use quantum mechanics as the latest scientific theory to give itself a wash of plausibility. It used to be magnets, radio waves, radiation, synchronicity, yaddie yaddie.
So if you think really hard that you want a pony that farts rainbows... you'll get it! Simple.
Didn't I read this crap in The Alchemist? Just, you know, follow your dream. All wrapped up in 200 pages. |
Does anyone else think The Alchemist was the biggest pile of airy-fairy trite tripe you've ever read? Truly awful. I despair for the generation that has made that book a "must-read". |
I read The Alchemist to see what the excitement was about. I realized quickly I had read the book already but it was called Illusions and it was written by Richard Bach.
It's a common theme. The reality is not all our dreams come true even if we make an effort. If you're 300 lbs and play D&D, you're probably not going to score the head cheerleader. These kinds of books are just mind porn for people who know deep in their hearts they're going to one day be wildly successful poets/authors/screen writers etc but never actually bother to get in the trenches and do the monkey work to get their break. They want a lot of credit because they wear their suffering on their sleeve and dropped out of university after a year studying English, having determined it was all crap and life experience counted for more and now the system is keeping them down from that good job teaching English in Korea... Now they spend their time as security guards or barristas and laugh at "the suits".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Attraction_%28New_Age%29
"you get what you think about; your thoughts determine your destiny."
Yeah. Keep thinking if you sit on your couch watching Oprah, eating Little Debbie snack cakes, you're going to be thin and beautiful and happy one day. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
It's a common theme. The reality is not all our dreams come true even if we make an effort. If you're 300 lbs and play D&D, you're probably not going to score the head cheerleader. |
He certainly won't if he doesn't change the way he thinks, and doesn't take advantage of all the wonderful information out there about how to change your life and realise your dreams. If he does there is no reason he can't date a cheer leader or anyone else. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| Surely someone else has at least heard about this year's #1 New York Times bestseller? |
I thought this was about the older KOrean film 비밀 |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I only know what I've read here, but it sure sounds like Norman Vincent Peale's "Power of Positive Thinking" which was first published in 1952!! "Everything old is new again." |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| Mashimaro wrote: |
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It's a common theme. The reality is not all our dreams come true even if we make an effort. If you're 300 lbs and play D&D, you're probably not going to score the head cheerleader. |
He certainly won't if he doesn't change the way he thinks, and doesn't take advantage of all the wonderful information out there about how to change your life and realise your dreams. If he does there is no reason he can't date a cheer leader or anyone else. |
Wisdom comes in knowing our limitations. |
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mack the knife
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: standing right behind you...
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| I don't know about Richard Bach, but if you need a new direction in life you should most certainly check out David Bach. At the very least, his solid gold, how-to books will help you get your pecuniary issues sorted. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Mashimaro wrote: |
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It's a common theme. The reality is not all our dreams come true even if we make an effort. If you're 300 lbs and play D&D, you're probably not going to score the head cheerleader. |
He certainly won't if he doesn't change the way he thinks, and doesn't take advantage of all the wonderful information out there about how to change your life and realise your dreams. If he does there is no reason he can't date a cheer leader or anyone else. |
Wisdom comes in knowing our limitations. |
Don't know about you, but I'd rather live my life without limitations. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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I think this comes back to the self help book thread. I think we all have a lot of ideas floating around our head and sometimes a book (not necessarily a self help book per se) can help us put the ideas into concrete form. For example reading Dune in my final year of Catholic high school help solidify a lot of the doubts I had about religion. Reading the Skeptical Enquirer helped solidify a lot of the mixed ideas I had about woo woo topics. Lots of people have read JS Mill and that's helped them put meat on the bones of ideas they have about "if you don't hurt anyone, then it should be free".
Yeah, if you want to realize a dream, you have to work at it. (Although I think The Secret argues you don't have to work at it, you just have to think about it a whole whole lot and quantum mechanics will deliver it to you.) I guess many people have never really been introduced to the idea you got to get off your ass and work. I'd also add that sometimes the best way to realize a difficult dream is plot a path parallel that's easier for your talent set. Once you've achieved a certain level or at least gotten your foot in the door, it's much easier to cross over.
You want to be a script writer? Get a job building sets on a studio lot. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
Yeah, if you want to realize a dream, you have to work at it. (Although I think The Secret argues you don't have to work at it, you just have to think about it a whole whole lot and quantum mechanics will deliver it to you.) I guess many people have never really been introduced to the idea you got to get off your ass and work. |
'The Secret' makes it very clear you actually have to take action when opportunities present themselves, it's not simply a matter of visualisation or thinking (though that part is important too). |
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