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Did Osama Really Mastermind 9-11?
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Who Blew Up All Those People?
Osama did it. End of story.
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A Dark League of rich super-villains operating from within the U.S. government and military.
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A little of this, a little of that; it was mostly Osama's boys, but they were helped by ZOG or the PFNAC.
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I refuse to believe anything that documentary said because the narrator was so snide and smug. Even if he IS right about some of it.
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I refuse to believe anything the President said because he is so snide and smug. Even if he IS right about some of it.
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swetepete



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Did Osama Really Mastermind 9-11? Reply with quote

I've met rather a lot of people lately who believe that 9-11 was an inside job. They told me to watch "Loose Change," and said I'd be convinced.
I did; I'm not; but I must admit it certainly raised a lot of questions about the whole thing.
So...what do you hyper-educated super-genius types think?
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: 9/11 Reply with quote

I think Al Qaeda somehow believed that destroying the WTC would end the Western hegemony & financial dominance, thus paving the way for the rise of Islam. Sounds illogical I know. And it was not the 1st attempt to bring it down either. There was an earlier attempt long before the conspiracy theorists started fantasising.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center#Bombing_of_February_26.2C_1993
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The word Mastermind gives him too much credit. It was probably more like 'Hey you fly some planes into some buildings, here's some dosh and pics of virgins' 'Okay boss'
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's "Loose Change"? Movie? Documentary? Can I download it? Post a link if you can please. Thanks.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the true mastermind behind 9/11. A nine-year-old Canadian boy.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070302.wtexas02/BNStory/National/home
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swetepete



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poet--Loose Change is a documentary, which I downloaded using Utorrent (though any of the torrent style download programs will work). I found the link on isohunt.com, which is my favorite searcher for torrent files. PM me if you aren't familiar with the torrent-downloading system.
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plokiju



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there's definitely more to the story than what we've heard. I remember hearing that Loose Change had made more sensational claims than what they knew was true to get people interested in it. Not everything in it is 100% reliable.

I do remember the days right after 9/11 Osama was saying what a terrible attack it was and how he didn't do it. Of course, if he didn't do it he'd probably claim responsibility later since blowing stuff up and creating terror is what a terrorist does best. Supports his cause at least.

It just seems strange to me that everything went so well and that the buildings were completly destroyed. Especially that one that wasn't even it by the planes. Also if it was an inside job it would explain why there's still nothing there now over 5 years later. Keep the wound fresh, people afraid, and let the Bush admin does whatever it wants. There's definitely more to the story.
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Demonicat



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets not forget that the pilots were Saudi, Osama (though Saudi himself) has VERY few wahabists on his side. Osama's boys are more made up of Pakistanis. Hmm, its a shame that the only hope the US has left sounds so much like the biggest villain in the US (Obama-Osama)
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djsmnc



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Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Death Star did it
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NAVFC



Joined: 10 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*sigh*
Yes Osama did it. And for some of you in this thread don't apparently realize they found 9-11 was planned for 5 years!
Add to that, as it seems some of the liberals have forgotten, the recovered video tape of OSama braggging about how successful 9-11 was, about how he didnt expect the entire building to come down, just the part hit by the planes and above etc. and he mentions a few of the hijackers.

Damn people..get some sense.
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NAVFC wrote:
Add to that, as it seems some of the liberals have forgotten

Listen, if you and the rest of the rednecks are going to keep equating liberals with conspiracy theorists and other fringe folks, I'm going to make an effort to equate conservatives with pill-popping, Thai lady-boy sex tourists at every opportunity, okay?
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

twg wrote:
NAVFC wrote:
Add to that, as it seems some of the liberals have forgotten

Listen, if you and the rest of the rednecks are going to keep equating liberals with conspiracy theorists and other fringe folks, I'm going to make an effort to equate conservatives with pill-popping, Thai lady-boy sex tourists at every opportunity, okay?



What will you call people on the fence?
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsmnc wrote:
twg wrote:
NAVFC wrote:
Add to that, as it seems some of the liberals have forgotten

Listen, if you and the rest of the rednecks are going to keep equating liberals with conspiracy theorists and other fringe folks, I'm going to make an effort to equate conservatives with pill-popping, Thai lady-boy sex tourists at every opportunity, okay?



What will you call people on the fence?

Pill-popping, Thai lady-boy sex tourists.
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waltjocketty



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whenever something huge, unexpected and catastrophic happens, people naturally try to chalk it up to some sort of conspiracy: JFK, Princess Di, Pearl Harbor, the moon landing, etc. These things just happened, and it's hard to believe because it forces us to look at things so differently, but they aren't conspiracies. They happened. There's always more than one side to a story, but 9/11 was not an inside job. Sure, that video can make a strong argument, but the arguments arguing otherwise are MUCH more compelling.
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plokiju



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had dismissed the conspiracy theories and while I didn't buy everything I saw in the movie, I'd say there's definitely enough missing in the story to make you wonder.
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