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| Which one do you like better? |
| I both like and understand language one better. |
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33% |
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| I both like and understand language two better. |
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| I like language one but understand language two better. |
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| I like language two but understand language one better. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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 Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: Which language do you like / understand better? |
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Yes, the samples for this text are really familiar so you probably already know what the text says, but look at the words itself and decide which one you would prefer to read the rest of a book in (any book), and which one you understand better. I left the option to like one but understand the other just in case you prefer a language that isn't as easy to read.
I'll give the background to this a bit later.
Language 1:
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| (1) Sur li terra esset solmen �n lingue e �n maniere de parlada. (2) Quande illi migrat ex li oriente, illi venit in un valley in li land Senaar, e illi logiat in it. (3) E li �n dit a su proximo: Veni, lass nos far briques e cocinar les per foy! E illi havet briques in vice de l�pides e bitumine in vice de calce. (4) E illi dit: Veni, lass nos far un cit� e un turre, li c�lmine de quel attin'e li ciel, e celebrar nor n�mine, antequam noi va divider nos in li tot munde. (5) E li D�mine descendet por vider li cit� e li turre, quel edificat li filios de Adam. (6) E il dit: Ecce! Un es li p�pul e �n es su lingue; e to es, quo illi comensat far e illi ne es impedit in alquicos, quel illi decidet far. (7) Veni, ergo, lass Nos descender e confuser ta lor lingue por que li �n ne audi li voce de su proximo. (8) E talmen Deo dividet les ex ti loc in li tot munde; e illi cessat edificar li cit�. (9) E pro to on n�mina ti loc Babel, proque ta li lingues del tot munde esset confuset. E ex ti loc Deo disperset les super li surfacie de omni regiones. |
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| (1) Nunc le tote mundo habeva un lingua e un parola comun. (2) Como homines moveva se al est, illes trovava un plana in Shinar e establiva se illac. (3) Illes deciva a le un, "Veni, lassa nos facer briccas e cocer los minutosemente." Illes usava bricca in vice de petra, e catran pro mortero. (4) Tun illes deciva, "Veni, lassa nos construer nos un citate, con un turre que arriva a le celoes, a fin que nos pote facer un nomine pro nos e non esser dispersate trans le facie del tote mundo." (5) Ma le Senior veniva a basso vidar le citate e le turre que le homines construeva. (6) Le Senior deciva, "Si como un gente que parla le mesme lingua illes ha comenciate facer isto, tun nil que illes plana facer essera impossibile pro illes. (7) Veni, lassa nos descender e confunde lor lingua dunque illes non comprendera a le un." (8) Assi le Senior dispersava les de illac trans tote le mundo, e illes cessava construente le citate. (9) Que es proque il esseva appellate Babel -- proque illac le Senior confundeva le lingua del tote mundo. De illac le Senior dispersava les trans le facie del tote mundo. |
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Travelous Maximus
Joined: 15 Jan 2007
Location: Nueva Anglia
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| I like Japanese. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| Travelous Maximus wrote: |
| I like Japanese. |
どれぐらい？ |
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Grimalkin
Joined: 22 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Of course I have to be awkward!
I find both equally easy to understand but like 'two' better because it has that 'Italian' feel to it ('one' has more of a dry 'Latin' feel). 
I voted for option 'two' though |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Heh, I knew Grimalkin would come through with the goods. Everybody else please be sure to vote. There's no right answer. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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I like #2. I don't feel like figuring out why right now  |
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Ecumenist
Joined: 04 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
| Travelous Maximus wrote: |
| I like Japanese. |
どれぐらい？ |
Doubt you'll be getting a reply from that turkey.
Last time you did this I found the choice easier. I am going to go with the LGG absence of explanation technique and just vote for number 1 because I like the feel better. |
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Travelous Maximus
Joined: 15 Jan 2007
Location: Nueva Anglia
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Ecumenist wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| Travelous Maximus wrote: |
| I like Japanese. |
どれぐらい? |
Doubt you'll be getting a reply from that turkey.
Last time you did this I found the choice easier. I am going to go with the LGG absence of explanation technique and just vote for number 1 because I like the feel better. |
I like you Ecumenist. You've got 'Chutzpah'[/i] |
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Ecumenist
Joined: 04 Mar 2007
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Oh, crap.
My social capital just hit zero. |
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Kim Jong Jordan
Joined: 13 Mar 2004
Location: The Internet
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| i like french the best |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I voted for number one but I'm not really sure which language I like better. I'd have to hear them spoken by someone who can do so correctly and then decide. I care more about how a langauge sounds than what it looks like when written. I can follow both fairly well, but mostly because I'm very familiar with this passage. |
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PimpofKorea
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Dealing in high quality imported English
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I only like one language...the language of money |
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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I didn't understand either language - but I managed to figure out what story it was while looking at the second passage (after having already read part of the first). It's hard to say if I would have caught on sooner or later if you'd reversed the order. |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Which language do you like / understand better? |
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| mithridates wrote: |
Yes, the samples for this text are really familiar so you probably already know what the text says, but look at the words itself and decide which one you would prefer to read the rest of a book in (any book), and which one you understand better. I left the option to like one but understand the other just in case you prefer a language that isn't as easy to read.
I'll give the background to this a bit later.
Language 1:
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| (1) Sur li terra esset solmen �n lingue e �n maniere de parlada. (2) Quande illi migrat ex li oriente, illi venit in un valley in li land Senaar, e illi logiat in it. (3) E li �n dit a su proximo: Veni, lass nos far briques e cocinar les per foy! E illi havet briques in vice de l�pides e bitumine in vice de calce. (4) E illi dit: Veni, lass nos far un cit� e un turre, li c�lmine de quel attin'e li ciel, e celebrar nor n�mine, antequam noi va divider nos in li tot munde. (5) E li D�mine descendet por vider li cit� e li turre, quel edificat li filios de Adam. (6) E il dit: Ecce! Un es li p�pul e �n es su lingue; e to es, quo illi comensat far e illi ne es impedit in alquicos, quel illi decidet far. (7) Veni, ergo, lass Nos descender e confuser ta lor lingue por que li �n ne audi li voce de su proximo. (8) E talmen Deo dividet les ex ti loc in li tot munde; e illi cessat edificar li cit�. (9) E pro to on n�mina ti loc Babel, proque ta li lingues del tot munde esset confuset. E ex ti loc Deo disperset les super li surfacie de omni regiones. |
Language 2:
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| (1) Nunc le tote mundo habeva un lingua e un parola comun. (2) Como homines moveva se al est, illes trovava un plana in Shinar e establiva se illac. (3) Illes deciva a le un, "Veni, lassa nos facer briccas e cocer los minutosemente." Illes usava bricca in vice de petra, e catran pro mortero. (4) Tun illes deciva, "Veni, lassa nos construer nos un citate, con un turre que arriva a le celoes, a fin que nos pote facer un nomine pro nos e non esser dispersate trans le facie del tote mundo." (5) Ma le Senior veniva a basso vidar le citate e le turre que le homines construeva. (6) Le Senior deciva, "Si como un gente que parla le mesme lingua illes ha comenciate facer isto, tun nil que illes plana facer essera impossibile pro illes. (7) Veni, lassa nos descender e confunde lor lingua dunque illes non comprendera a le un." (8) Assi le Senior dispersava les de illac trans tote le mundo, e illes cessava construente le citate. (9) Que es proque il esseva appellate Babel -- proque illac le Senior confundeva le lingua del tote mundo. De illac le Senior dispersava les trans le facie del tote mundo. |
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I liked Language One better for a couple of reasons.
The diacritics above the vowels put me at ease, as I felt that I had a phonetic guide.
Also, I read them out loud (quietly) to myself as I read them, and Language One just felt more comfortable, rolling off my tongue more easily. I don't know why. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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I am with Troll_Bait. I like one more as I feel more comfortable with it and understand it better.
Now come on Mith, come out with it, did you invent one of them? |
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