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Babel: What the hell was that?
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Babel: What the hell was that? Reply with quote

My interpretation skills aren't quite what they used to be, but was that really just two and a half hours of crap telling us that guns are bad?

I can't believe how bad that movie was.
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The people of the world are all interconnected (as are the stories in the film).

It's a "slice of life" film. Not a lot of messages in it I think.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good movie, but a bit slow.
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crazy_arcade



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just kept waiting for a climax...and it never really came. I thought they could've had a great ending if the girl had jumped off of the balcony at the end. I thought they had a potentially great movie and they wussed out on it. But yeah, we are all interconnected and one action has numerous counteractions.
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old was that deaf Japanese girl?

I was surprised to see her snatch onthe big screen. They don't even allow that in the porn here!
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Grimalkin



Joined: 22 May 2005

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:12 am    Post subject: Re: Babel: What the hell was that? Reply with quote

Newbie wrote:
My interpretation skills aren't quite what they used to be, but was that really just two and a half hours of crap telling us that guns are bad?

I can't believe how bad that movie was.



Whew! Thank god it wasn't just me!
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endo wrote:
How old was that deaf Japanese girl?

I was surprised to see her snatch onthe big screen. They don't even allow that in the porn here!


One of the few things I liked in that movie.
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kermo



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was a little relieved when I read some reviews by professionals confessing that they weren't sure exactly what it was supposed to be about. I didn't find it very deep or very moving, but the Japanese storyline was my favorite.

In the beginning of the movie, when the little kid is fondling himself while thinking of his sister, my rather squeamish friend objected:
"This isn't entertainment!"

Too right.
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How old was that deaf Japanese girl?


The actress is 26.


Many others have been confused by this movie- especially the parts shot in Japan. This is a movie that could have used montages or some other way of introducing the characters to us. The backgrounds of the characters, especially the Japanese characters, are critical to understanding the stories.

Visually, the movie was amazing. Plot-wise, it felt loaded down, like there were multiple writers and the producers/director just couldn't say "NO" to anyone. That happens.
More could have been done with the Japanese characters- maybe a movie by themselves? It sure "felt" like Japan- crowded, noisy, and yet people are alone.
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traxxe



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Artistically I thought it was amazing. The fact you got some of the story without subtitles is great. But the movie was called Babel, if you weren't left slightly confused and curious to if there was something wrong in the translation of the movie then it sort of defeats the artistic concept of the movie.
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was surprised to see her snatch onthe big screen. They don't even allow that in the porn here!


Her name is Rinko Kikuchi and she was nominated for an Oscar for the movie. Betcha showing the "holiest of holes" cost her an Oscar- the older Academy members and all of those gay men in Hollyweird wouldn't have voted for her.
She should have won it over the singer who played a singer.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1946248/
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Zoobot



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really liked the movie... I liked how it showed the snowball effect of some actions we think of as harmless (like giving a guide a rifle as a present).

I don't think it was saying that guns are bad necessarily, but that it is easy to get reality twisted as it filters through different narratives (i.e. news, first-hand witnesses, telephone-effect spread of rumours).
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endo



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
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How old was that deaf Japanese girl?


The actress is 26.


Good. So I'm not going to hell for the thoughts I was having during the movie.
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formerflautist



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We were having a movie day during winter break. I let my high school students pick out Babel. The masturbation scene was bad. After the fist shot of pubic hair, the movie went off. I was fairly certain that I would receive a stern talking to the next day but nothing happened. Yeah, never let your students watch a movie that you haven't seen first.
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
In the beginning of the movie, when the little kid is fondling himself while thinking of his sister, my rather squeamish friend objected:
"This isn't entertainment!"

Too right.


She was his sister?! Shocked

That didn't occur to me when I watched it.

Anyway I liked the movie. You could understand what each character was feeling and why they were acting the way they were, and the differences between them, in terms of language or situation, didn't prevent that.
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