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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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 Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:54 am Post subject: Re: Return of 15 British Sailors |
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| venus wrote: |
the UK should attack Iran or launch a rescue misson should negotiations fail.
What do others think....? |
| diver wrote: |
| SAS/SBS are already on the ground. |
I think you should research "Iran" and "rescue missions." |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| The one advantage that the west has in Iran are its youth and its minorities- most young people can't stomach the restrictions placed on them by the guardian council and Iran has always been notoriously harsh with its handling of minorities. |
I completely 100% agree with this. Iran's young people are no different than young people from the west. They like the same things and are very westerniz..... modernized. In 20 years, these people will control the country and I think there will be a huge change in politics. |
Sorry Aj, you are simply dreaming here. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Blair promised a "tougher stance" should present diplomatic strategies not achieve their release, but I wonder whether military action is out of the question too.
If the Americans can't even control Baghdad, the Brits have got no chance against the Iranians, it would appear. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
Blair promised a "tougher stance" should present diplomatic strategies not achieve their release, but I wonder whether military action is out of the question too.
If the Americans can't even control Baghdad, the Brits have got no chance against the Iranians, it would appear. |
This isnt quite true. The Americans are trying to control Baghdad - i.e. keep it in as big a piece as possible. If they wanted to, Baghdad and Iraq could be one big smoking pile of rubble in a week, or less. Same with Iran - i.e. Iran could be reduced to a big smoking pile of rubble in under a month. Let's not make Iran into what it isn't - a credible power to be feared. The only thing stopping the Americans from doing what they should do to Iraq, and also Iran, is world opinion. Hopefully world opinion swings a bit more towards the reasonable after this illegal seizure of English soldiers.
So, in summation:
overthrowing Iran's government and trying to contain the country by gentle methods would be hard
destroying Iran would not. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
If the Americans can't even control Baghdad, the Brits have got no chance against the Iranians, it would appear. |
The real problem is that Iran has the very real ability to project her power into the UK. You can bomb the hell out of Iran with no intention of bringing democracy to the masses, but the London Metro will burn as well. I don't think that the UK would be willing to fight a state that can fight back. (nor are most Americans, to be fair) |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| ajgeddes wrote: |
| lastat06513 wrote: |
| The one advantage that the west has in Iran are its youth and its minorities- most young people can't stomach the restrictions placed on them by the guardian council and Iran has always been notoriously harsh with its handling of minorities. |
I completely 100% agree with this. Iran's young people are no different than young people from the west. They like the same things and are very westerniz..... modernized. In 20 years, these people will control the country and I think there will be a huge change in politics. |
Sorry Aj, you are simply dreaming here. |
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3316881,00.html
"In Israel and the west Iran is seen as a religious extremist country controlled by Ayatollahs but it seems reality is different.
Many young Iranians lead secular lives. A young Tehran-based computer technician and DJ told Ynet of parties he organizes in the capital, where young Iranians are drawn to the tunes of western music, drugs and alcohol."
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-02-28-iran-pink_x.htm
"Yet, the country has changed in ways that have contradicted the Islamic tenets on which the revolution was based. For every weblog shut down, two more seem to emerge. New, reform-leaning newspapers regularly challenge government policies. Reformist politicians are hoping for a comeback. And in a society where more than half the population is under the age of 30, young Iranians are staging a non-violent but potent counterrevolution not only through fashion, but also with their music and relations between the sexes that defy the strict Islamism dictated by the ruling mullahs"
Sounds like the youngsters in Iran may not be as fanatical in their Islamic practices as we have been led to believe. |
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