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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
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 Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
You didn't answer the second question. Is his statement on evolution a true statement? If you don't believe then you may as well be citing a guy who believes homosexuality is a proof of the resurrection of Jesus. |
MM2
I only give examples of reasons to believe in Christ. Nobody can make someone see the truth. They can only find it through AGAPE love, bro.
For example, check this out,
Saphire and oil poured out from Heaven
Foolishness or truth? |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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I'm getting pictures like this:
I'm not a doctor, but I'd say that looks like a glandular problem. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Why can't you fundies just believe? Why do you obsess on proof to back your faith? |
Lack of faith, no? I spend zero time trying to convince any one it is rather irrelevant and is important only on a personal basis. Couldn't care less who does or doesn't agree with that. But the religious folk are driven by the commands of their gods to prosthelatize (sp?). |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
You didn't answer the second question. Is his statement on evolution a true statement? If you don't believe then you may as well be citing a guy who believes homosexuality is a proof of the resurrection of Jesus. |
MM2
I only give examples of reasons to believe in Christ. Nobody can make someone see the truth. They can only find it through AGAPE love, bro.
For example, check this out,
Saphire and oil poured out from Heaven
Foolishness or truth? |
er magic trick? Don't you have a telly? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| ED209 wrote: |
| fiveeagles wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
You didn't answer the second question. Is his statement on evolution a true statement? If you don't believe then you may as well be citing a guy who believes homosexuality is a proof of the resurrection of Jesus. |
MM2
I only give examples of reasons to believe in Christ. Nobody can make someone see the truth. They can only find it through AGAPE love, bro.
For example, check this out,
Saphire and oil poured out from Heaven
Foolishness or truth? |
er magic trick? Don't you have a telly? |
Yeah, what is going on there? He's doing some Penn & Teller style magic trick making it seem like oil is coming from his hands?
"Glory Explosion" I think was a porn I watched once... oh wait that was "Glory Hole Explosion". My bad.
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| Foolishness or truth? |
Fallacy: false dichotomy.
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
I only give examples of reasons to believe in Christ. Nobody can make someone see the truth. |
So the reason you're giving is the theory of evolution and its assumption of an old earth? Sweet. |
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SeoulFinn
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: 1h from Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| Are you a fan of Richard Dawkins? Or is it just that you are annoyed by FiveEagles and others who promote the idea of God on chatboards? |
I'm reading his The God Delusion book right now. Even though I haven't read even half of it yet, I can recommend it. I don't know if you can find it in Korea because I picked up mine in Singapore couple weeks ago.
Oh, and yesterday I watched the Banned from the Bible documentary. That was pretty interesting as well. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Atheistic philosophies (and theories with atheistic implications...) have negative value in terms of fulfilling the real aim of human life.
In illusion, we identify ourselves with our material bodies, and naturally tend to think that gratifying our material senses is the prime necessity of life.
In reality, we are a combination of body, mind, and spirit. When the body dies, the spirit (and even the subtle mind...) continues to live - as it always has and always will. Only material bodies appear to take birth, grow, produce by-products, dwindle, and vanish...
The human form of life is meant for realizing our self as a spiritual particle of God. Modern society is set up to promote pursuit of material sense gratification - which is more befitting lower animal species.
Real religion is neither man-made nor sectarian, but - like everything else in the material world - it's subject to corruption. Ideally, religions simultaneously promote detachment from sense gratification and attachment to the Supreme Personality of Godhead... |
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freethought
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1. you're crazy, but i have a feeling you know that already.
2. you say "the real aim of human life". I'm curious as to what the 'real aim' is? |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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Everyone in the material world is more-or-less crazy. Many people are mad after money, sex, intoxication, and gorging on animal flesh and blood...
20/20 (show seen on Korean cable this week...) had a feature on a guy who won a $315 million Powerball jackpot. He thought that all his problems were solved and he'd be able to help many other people ...
He became so not satisfied by his material windfall that he frankly stated that he should have torn the winning ticket up...http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3012631&page=1
The real aim of life is sense gratification and enjoyment, but not our temporary material senses. We should focus on pleasing the unlimited transcendental senses of the Absolute Person. We can then experience complete satisfaction because we are minute separated particles of the original person. Devotional yoga (bhakti) is the universal method for linking to that reservoir of all pleasure.
Krishna, in Bhagavad-gita instructs us to offer Him with devotion a leaf, flower, or water, and He will accept it - simply by hearing the prayers that are vibrated. The devotional offering becomes spiritually transformed into prasadam (the Lord's mercy...)
The following article suggests that there may be some scientific basis for that type of devotional faith in prayer: http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/news/04-07/news1153.htm |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| fiveeagles wrote: |
I only give examples of reasons to believe in Christ. Nobody can make someone see the truth. |
So the reason you're giving is the theory of evolution and its assumption of an old earth? Sweet. |
Have you ever heard of the expression, "to agree to disagree"? Foundationally, he is correct on how the order of the universe came about. So he still has time to correct his thinking.  Look how far he has already come. 
He believes in Christ,
1In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.
which is the most important thing. Not everyone has the same revelation of who Christ is and that's ok MM2. It's a journey. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
Have you ever heard of the expression, "to agree to disagree"? Foundationally, he is correct on how the order of the universe came about. So he still has time to correct his thinking. Look how far he has already come.
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Actually, you still have time to correct your thinking. You'll notice he's examined the evidence of evolution. You look at some guy doing stage magic tricks and conclude it's a miracle. Sad. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| fiveeagles wrote: |
Have you ever heard of the expression, "to agree to disagree"? Foundationally, he is correct on how the order of the universe came about. So he still has time to correct his thinking. Look how far he has already come.
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Actually, you still have time to correct your thinking. You'll notice he's examined the evidence of evolution. You look at some guy doing stage magic tricks and conclude it's a miracle. Sad. |
What is sad is that you are closed to the evidence of creation. You don't even know the circumstances at this conference or many like it, but yet you write it off as magic tricks. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
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Have you ever heard of the expression, "to agree to disagree"? Foundationally, he is correct on how the order of the universe came about. So he still has time to correct his thinking. Look how far he has already come.
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Actually, you still have time to correct your thinking. You'll notice he's examined the evidence of evolution. You look at some guy doing stage magic tricks and conclude it's a miracle. Sad. |
What is sad is that you are closed to the evidence of creation. You don't even know the circumstances at this conference or many like it, but yet you write it off as magic tricks. |
What evidence? The evidence of an old earth and evolution found by the head of the Human Genome project? Spare me your sympathy and go back to figuring out how a guy can use basic stage magic tricks to make oil come from his hands. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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double post (although it may need saying twice)
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