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BreBre711

Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Location: Amsterdam...for now
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:37 am Post subject: Now I have some living questions! |
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Well, the whole discovery of needing official transcripts to legally work has depressed me, but I'm still going to post these questions. I have heard some things and I'm not sure how true they are but I am going to ask anyway...
*I heard you have to boil the water before you can drink it? Is that true?
*How do you do your laundry? Do they have Laundromats?
*Are the electrical plugs/sockets 220v European? (like the ones I would use here in Holland)
* Does your apartment have a bath/shower?
*What about hot water? I'm not trying to sound like a dope, but I assume you have hot water...??
*Do you ever watch Korean TV? Do the Korean stations ever show American/English shows? If so, are they subbed or dubbed?
*If you live in Seoul for example, can you buy monthly metro/subway/bus passes? Do they use subway tokens of some sort?
* Is it safe for women who travel/live alone?
* Do your apartments have fridges, stoves and etc?
* Have any of you had to ship stuff over (extra clothes and etc)-how much did it cost if you don't mind me asking(an estimate)
*Have any of you learned Korea just by immersion (no official classes)?
I ask because I tend to learn better through immersion...
* Was it hard to teach English and learn Korean your first year?
Ok, that's all for now!
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: Re: Now I have some living questions! |
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BreBre711 wrote: |
Well, the whole discovery of needing official transcripts to legally work has depressed me, but I'm still going to post these questions. I have heard some things and I'm not sure how true they are but I am going to ask anyway...
*I heard you have to boil the water before you can drink it? Is that true?
*How do you do your laundry? Do they have Laundromats?
*Are the electrical plugs/sockets 220v European? (like the ones I would use here in Holland)
* Does your apartment have a bath/shower?
*What about hot water? I'm not trying to sound like a dope, but I assume you have hot water...??
*Do you ever watch Korean TV? Do the Korean stations ever show American/English shows? If so, are they subbed or dubbed?
*If you live in Seoul for example, can you buy monthly metro/subway/bus passes? Do they use subway tokens of some sort?
* Is it safe for women who travel/live alone?
* Do your apartments have fridges, stoves and etc?
* Have any of you had to ship stuff over (extra clothes and etc)-how much did it cost if you don't mind me asking(an estimate)
*Have any of you learned Korea just by immersion (no official classes)?
I ask because I tend to learn better through immersion...
* Was it hard to teach English and learn Korean your first year?
Ok, that's all for now!
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I don't drink the tap water, I get my water from a nearby spring. You can by bottled water.
My apartment came with a washer, there is a clothesline on the roof, check with your recruiter or have washing machine included in your contract, most contracts list he appliances you should have with your accomodations.
The electricity is 220v/50hz I think or maybe 240. I brought a laptop computer with me, the power supply was rated 100-240 so withthe help of a plug adapter I was able to use it with no problem.
My bathroom is a little "primative" I have a handheld shower head that hooks to the wall. The problem is the water pressure isn't usefully high so I use a couple of buckets to get the job done. There is hot and cold running water.
There are some channels that show English speaking programming, NCIS, CSI usually back season episode. For up to the minute programing use torrent downloads. Every Saturday or sunday night I catch up on my downloads (24, Jericho, The Unit, Desperate Housewives etc.).
Public tranportation is relatively good everywhere. I have no specifics on Seoul I live in Masan.
I'm a man so I have no way of knowing how safe the women feel. My wife feels pretty safe but, she is Korean.
Again, appliances you think you will "need" should be listed in the contract.
My wife and I just packed what we needed, you should be able to bring wha tyou need in your suit cases. You can buy clothes and shoes here. I bout some hiking boots last week my size was hard to find but I found them.
Teaching will have challenges, so long as you are friendly and energenic. You can get material from whatever text book the school is using, develop that into a game. Game ideas abound throughout the daves esl world.
The language is supposed to be easy to learn, I have heard of people becoming conversational within 3 months. My wife has been trying to teach me for 30 years, however I was never immersed in it as I am now. In three weeks I am pretty adapt with the alphabet and words for parts of the body. I have most of the PQs in my vocabulary. Other than that I am quite clueless.
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: Re: Now I have some living questions! |
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cbclark4 wrote: |
The language is supposed to be easy to learn, I have heard of people becoming conversational within 3 months. |
Who has ever said Korean is easy to learn?
http://www.nvtc.gov/lotw/months/november/learningExpectations.html
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Category III: Languages which are exceptionally difficult for native English speakers
88 weeks (second year of study in-country)
(2200 class hours)
Arabic
Cantonese
Mandarin
*Japanese
Korean |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Hello, BreBre711!
Most of your questions I could have asked before I came here.
Opinions will vary, but here is my two cents:
*I heard you have to boil the water before you can drink it? Is that true?
They sell well water by the liter at grocery stores and convenient marts.
It's not expensive.
*How do you do your laundry? Do they have Laundromats?
The Laundromat is one Western custom which hasn't disseminated into Korea.
Except for the apartment where I am living now, every apartment I have lived in has had a washing machine.
Now I wash my clothes in the sink.
*Are the electrical plugs/sockets 220v European? (like the ones I would use here in Holland)
Korea has round plugs and sockets, whereas the United States has rectangular plugs and sockets.
When I got here, I had to have a new plug grafted onto my computer.
* Does your apartment have a bath/shower?
*What about hot water? I'm not trying to sound like a dope, but I assume you have hot water...??
* Do your apartments have fridges, stoves and etc?
Korea isn't exactly rich but it isn't exactly poor either.
It's somewhere in between.
You won't have to make any major adjustments in terms of living conditions.
*Do you ever watch Korean TV? Do the Korean stations ever show American/English shows? If so, are they subbed or dubbed?
I don't watch much TV, but I think there are two or three English channels.
* Is it safe for women who travel/live alone?
Can't help you there, either.
Korea has a low crime rate, though.
* Have any of you had to ship stuff over (extra clothes and etc)-how much did it cost if you don't mind me asking(an estimate)
Yes, but it was a long time ago and I don't remember.
I saved up a few months' wages and told my friend that I was ready to pay for it.
*Have any of you learned Korea just by immersion (no official classes)?
I ask because I tend to learn better through immersion...
I'm afraid I can't give you good news here.
Except for Mithridates, very few of us have learned Korean period!
Some of us keep trying, though.
Here is my list of what I consider the best ways to learn Korean through immersion:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=31230&highlight=zone++proximal+development
The best way to learn Korean is to stay away from other foreigners, stay away from Koreans who speak English, and seek Koreans who don't speak English.
I know I'm communicating in English by logging onto Dave's ESL Cafe, but do as I say, not as I do.
*If you live in Seoul for example, can you buy monthly metro/subway/bus passes? Do they use subway tokens of some sort?
I don't know.
I hate Seoul and I try to stay out of Seoul.
If you are sincere about learning to speak Korean, get a job in the smallest and most isolated community you can find.
In Seoul, you will see a person speaking to you in English every time you turn around.
* Was it hard to teach English and learn Korean your first year?
At first, I had trouble managing a kindergarten class.
Now, seven years later, I am the one offering advice on managing a kindergarten class.
In reply to the second half of your question, it has been hard to learn Korean every year.
You don't have to learn Korean in order to please your director and your co-teachers.
In fact, most directors and co-teachers are not very supportive of foreigners who study Korean. |
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daz1979

Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Location: Gangwon-Do
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:06 am Post subject: Re: Now I have some living questions! |
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BreBre711 wrote: |
Well, the whole discovery of needing official transcripts to legally work has depressed me, but I'm still going to post these questions. |
Transcripts is no big deal. It took me around 2 days to get mine! |
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ella

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
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*I heard you have to boil the water before you can drink it? Is that true?
I drink and brush my teeth with bottled water, and I don't open my mouth in the shower.
*How do you do your laundry? Do they have Laundromats?
A clothes washer should come with your apartment. Some are not set up to wash clothes in hot water, only cold. Costco carries Woolite. Few apartments come with dryers so you'll probably have to dry your clothes on a drying rack. Dry cleaners are all over and not expensive.
*Are the electrical plugs/sockets 220v European? (like the ones I would use here in Holland)
220V 60Hz.
* Does your apartment have a bath/shower?
Usually showers but some have baths. Some showers are not partitioned off from the rest of the bathroom in any way, they're just a shower hose mounted on a wall, and a floor drain. You may need to buy a shower rod/curtain.
*What about hot water? I'm not trying to sound like a dope, but I assume you have hot water...??
Yes.
*Do you ever watch Korean TV? Do the Korean stations ever show American/English shows? If so, are they subbed or dubbed?
Yes, yes, and both. Usually subtitles. American TV shows are along the lines of ER, CSI, and SatC. Movies are shown ad nauseam: Matrix, the Mummy movies (Brendan Fraser), and so on. The more violent, the more they're shown. Cartoons, as far as I can tell, are always dubbed.
*If you live in Seoul for example, can you buy monthly metro/subway/bus passes? Do they use subway tokens of some sort?
The subway has tickets which you buy at the station, but you can also get a T-money card onto which you add money and just swipe at the subway.
* Is it safe for women who travel/live alone?
Yes. If you're white and female and from the West, you're battling the *beep* image while you're here so keep that in mind when selecting your clothes. Modest dress is recommended: cover your midriff and shoulders, shorts should be at least mid-thigh. Westerners in general seem to dress sort of shabbily compared to Koreans, IMO. Leave the torn, baggy stuff at home.
* Do your apartments have fridges, stoves and etc?
Yes.
* Have any of you had to ship stuff over (extra clothes and etc)-how much did it cost if you don't mind me asking(an estimate)
Yes. Check the web site for the postal service in your country. So far I've had three small(ish) packages shipped to me, each via GPS through the USPS, and they cost $20-30 each. Got here in about a week.
*Have any of you learned Korea just by immersion (no official classes)?
I ask because I tend to learn better through immersion...
I took a semester before I came. It helped tremendously to be able to read and write and know basic conversational phrases, I strongly recommend it. It's slowly improving as I live here but I'll be taking classes next semester (my school offers them) as the structure helps me.
* Was it hard to teach English and learn Korean your first year?
No. I have several years of experience teaching ESL and held out for a good position. This makes all the difference in the world. You do not have to "pay dues" nor should you take "any job," no matter what anyone else tells you. Know what you want, what you're qualified for, and get the best possible position you can. Korean will be my fourth language and learning it has not been difficult as I already know another Asian language, which helped. |
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superacidjax

Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Now I have some living questions! |
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BreBre711 wrote: |
*Are the electrical plugs/sockets 220v European? (like the ones I would use here in Holland) |
220V two pin... exactly like France (presumably Holland as well.) |
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kat2

Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Location: Busan, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Ship things by boat. It takes 2 months to get here, but is relatively cheap.
I feel very safe here. I could walk anywhere any time of night here in Busan, and not worry about it.
Definitly buy bottled water. You can buy 12 liters for less than 4000won
All your other questions ahve been answered. |
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pdx
Joined: 19 Jan 2007
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: Re: Now I have some living questions! |
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BreBre711 wrote: |
Well, the whole discovery of needing official transcripts to legally work has depressed me, but I'm still going to post these questions. I have heard some things and I'm not sure how true they are but I am going to ask anyway...
*I heard you have to boil the water before you can drink it? Is that true?
*How do you do your laundry? Do they have Laundromats?
*Are the electrical plugs/sockets 220v European? (like the ones I would use here in Holland)
* Does your apartment have a bath/shower?
*What about hot water? I'm not trying to sound like a dope, but I assume you have hot water...??
*Do you ever watch Korean TV? Do the Korean stations ever show American/English shows? If so, are they subbed or dubbed?
*If you live in Seoul for example, can you buy monthly metro/subway/bus passes? Do they use subway tokens of some sort?
* Is it safe for women who travel/live alone?
* Do your apartments have fridges, stoves and etc?
* Have any of you had to ship stuff over (extra clothes and etc)-how much did it cost if you don't mind me asking(an estimate)
*Have any of you learned Korea just by immersion (no official classes)?
I ask because I tend to learn better through immersion...
* Was it hard to teach English and learn Korean your first year?
Ok, that's all for now!
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I boil the water before I drink it. It's really not a big deal. Boil it, refrigerate it in a Nalgene, and it's ready to go. But, it doesn't taste that great, FYI.
My apartment has a washing machine. You buy a drying rack from the local store and get used to stiff clothes (the first time you wear them).
I can't remember about the plugs.
My apartment has an enclosed shower with a glass wall, but I know that many apartments have a shower head on the wall and you take a shower in the middle of the bathrooom.
Haha. We have hot water.
I don't have a TV, but my friends do. They watch American/British shows or Korean sports.
The most convenient thing for riding the subway is a Tmoney card that you just put money on. It's very easy. I hardly EVER rode public transportation ate home and thought I would be a complete idiot about this, but it's so simple and easy that I can't believe I was scared when I came here. The subway system in Seoul is great and I love it.
I don't live or really travel alone, but I have western friends who do, and they are absolutely fine. Just you know.. don't go in that dark alley alone.
My apartment has a decent sized fridge, and a two-burner stovetop that is gas heat. No oven, which is typical here.
Korean was mostly by immersion, though I really don't know any. I learned to read by using the subway and looking at the names of stations, and matching it with Korean alphabet listed. Then I got some help from a book. I know a bit more because I got some simple Korean lessons, and Korean friends will teach you some, but I only have a little bit of Korean, and I've been here for almost 7 months.
I'm an education major and teaching here has been difficult, but I blame that mostly on the differences between the American education system and the Korean one. And the fact that I teach at a hagwon which is a whole 'nother ball of fun. But I don't think it's too hard. Just different.
As for shipping things, I brought two suitcases that were both over the weight limit, and paying the fee for that is cheaper than shipping more boxes of stuff. I can't imagine what you need to ship that you can't put in two suitcases. There's a TON of shopping here. |
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BreBre711

Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Location: Amsterdam...for now
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: |
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That is exactly all I needed to know! Well, for now anyways...
But seeing as I'm having transcript problems (go to this thread for more info http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1138894#1138894 )
I am not even sure if I will even be able to come over now...but if I get this worked out then I will be asking even more questions!!
Until then I will be lurking in the shadows once again
TTYL!
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