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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
| I thought volunteering was illegal for E'2's? |
It is. So is driving 10 km/h over the speed limit back home. They ain't gonna stop you though. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| The_Conservative wrote: |
| I thought volunteering was illegal for E'2's? |
It is. So is driving 10 km/h over the speed limit back home. They ain't gonna stop you though. |
It may not be a good idea for a male to go to those things since we are talking about violence by men against women, and I am a man. It may be more appropriate for female volunteers. I would do my part by stopping men I see from doing stuff like that. I guess that would be my way of volunteering. I have no idea how they would feel about some guy being there after they had to flee to those places because of a man.
Your thoughts? Then again, I have no idea what time they need volunteers either... |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| The_Conservative wrote: |
| I thought volunteering was illegal for E'2's? |
It is. So is driving 10 km/h over the speed limit back home. They ain't gonna stop you though. |
A female co-worker said it may not be a good idea for a male to go to those things since we are talking about violence by men against women, and I am a man. It may be more appropriate for female volunteers. I would do my part by stopping men I see from doing stuff like that. I guess that would be my way of volunteering. I have no idea how they would feel about some guy being there after they had to flee to those places because of a man. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Adventurer, I kind of disagree with what your co worker said. If you were volunteering to be a rape or crisis counsellor that has potential for dodginess, but in just about any other situation I think it would be fine.
It doesn't sound as though you'd be dealing with anyone on the frontlines, more like brainstorming fundraising and awareness activities. Men are about half the population of the planet. I'd think that if you're trying to promote a cause then alienating that many people is probably a really bad start.  |
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Doogie
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Hwaseong City
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I do empathize with Korean women but they sure don't help themselves if they sit back and wait to be victimized. |
She has no recourse, and "doing something about it" will leave her in a worse position than doing nothing.
The police would show up, stand around, take the mans side, befor letting it go.
If she wanted to press charges, the cops would loathe her even more. her reputation would be ruined and there would be nothing to protect her when they fine her for wasting their time.
Of many domestic abuse cases over the years in korea, the only one the police acted on was when the husband actually paralysed his wife by breaking a chair over her spine. Thats what it takes before they do anything here. |
Nautilus, that's a pretty bleak picture that you portray. It's almost impossible to believe that the police would condemn a woman for reporting an attempted rape. For all their technological advances, they still seemed to be trapped in the 19th century in a lot of ways. |
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gkee2
Joined: 11 Apr 2007
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Men are welcome to come. Why wouldn't they be? It's not an anti-male organization. The fundraiser that we're having in May was suggested and is largely being organized by a male volunteer.
Right now there aren't any set hours of volunteering. Volunteers right now have been mostly involved with proofreading of articles, teaching English to the staff (so that they can communicate with other international women's organizations) and raising awareness. We have meetings every 2-3 weeks. As foreigners, our activities are a bit limited but what we try to do raise awareness about domestic violence and other issues that limit women. Our meeting this Sunday will be focusing on the upcoming fundraiser in May, which is for the women's shelters, and other possible events in May and June. You can check out their website at http://www.hotline.or.kr/20050507/english/english_main.asp |
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dog_disco
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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| I beat my Korean wife AT LEAST once per week. |
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stevieg4ever
Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Location: London, England
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| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| one thing i never worked out while i was in Korea was the sonic screaming that went on at all hours of the night and into the early morning. Scrolling through here made it clear what that was. |
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Doogie
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Hwaseong City
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| Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| stevieg4ever wrote: |
| one thing i never worked out while i was in Korea was the sonic screaming that went on at all hours of the night and into the early morning. Scrolling through here made it clear what that was. |
Yea, it's pretty bad. I honestly think that there are many Korean men that believe that if a woman is young and unmarried and the guy wants her badly enough, then it is O.K. to just "take her". I know that's a gross generalization, but I do think it's an underlying feeling among a lot of Korean men. It would certainly explain the (almost) epidemic number of rapes in this country. |
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mack4289
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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This probably got posted somewhere else, but it's certainly relevant here:
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2874477
"A recent series of disturbing sex crimes committed by teenagers have worried and saddened many Koreans, because the rapists are shockingly young and some of the incidents took place in classrooms during school hours. These middle-school rapists showed little remorse for their acts, police and psychologist who questioned them said, with some of the young criminals viewing gang rape as part of growing up." |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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This probably got posted somewhere else, but it's certainly relevant here:
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2874477
"A recent series of disturbing sex crimes committed by teenagers have worried and saddened many Koreans, because the rapists are shockingly young and some of the incidents took place in classrooms during school hours. These middle-school rapists showed little remorse for their acts, police and psychologist who questioned them said, with some of the young criminals viewing gang rape as part of growing up." |
Unfortunately, when it comes to young kids doing such things, in Dallas, Texas there were kindergarteners who sexually assaulted other kindergarteners. You probably think I am making that up. I am guessing that the kids were raised in Mexican gangs where they saw sexual acts performed in front of them and encouraged to participate and then tried the acts at school. As far as these Korean kids, I find it surprising. Most of my young middle school students don't talk about sex and dating as much as their Western counterparts. |
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superacidjax
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul
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It's a complex subject, but unnecessary violence to animals killed (unnecessarily) for food will manifest in various violent ways among humans.
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Wasn't Hitler a vegetarian?  |
Hitler and Napoleon (along with Arnold Swartznegger) only have one testicle. |
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superacidjax
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
| I thought volunteering was illegal for E'2's? |
No. You can go to immigration and fill out an application for off-visa activities. You pay a fee, they then stamp your passport and write in an endorsement allowing for the extra activities.
I had to do that so I wouldn't get in trouble for DJing. |
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superacidjax
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| It may not be a good idea for a male to go to those things since we are talking about violence by men against women, and I am a man. It may be more appropriate for female volunteers. |
Of course, the protective cocoon of females can be good, but I think that it's important for battered women to be around men and women that care and are compassionate. If battered women see men actively helping solve the problem or showing concern, then that will be much better for them psychologically down the line. It's important that battered women realize that men as a group aren't to be feared, only the few that are committing violence. By sheltering battered women from being around men, that will only exaserbate the problem upon their eventual return to a male and female society. It's better to make it clear from the start that there are men that are appalled by abuse and that there are many men who are positive forces in the community.
I've seen too many women back in the states (I used to be a paramedic for a short time) that were beaten up, then sheltered by some women's group only to return to society permanently scarred and fearful of all men. Just because one man did something doesn't men that all of them will. By isolating battered women, it only serves to reinforce their own strong (and justifiable) response to men.
If a child is abused by an adult, does it mean that the child should only be around other children until they're "recovered?" Of course not. They too need to experience the protection and compassion of loving adults. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Most of my young middle school students don't talk about sex and dating as much as their Western counterparts. |
Are you kidding? Maybe it's different in a coed school, But I work at a girl's middle school and they talk about it alot, obviously not in English. Apparanlty the High school girls are worse. During breaks girls prefer to gather around male teacher's desks. The comic books the girls read are full of subtle sexual topics. And if you're a young male Korean teacher, they flirt and ask about sex and dating all the time (from what I've heard). |
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