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Topic Discussion - The Shooting
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Topic Discussion - The Shooting Reply with quote

Please do not debate or discuss the issue on this thread. I made this up for people who might want to use it in a discussion class.

I hope it helps and gets people talking and thinking.

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spyro25



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my uni students did NOT want to talk about this today. they seem to feel a responsibility for the act.
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not go near this topic with a 10' pole.

What are you thinking dude?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paji eh Wong wrote:
I would not go near this topic with a 10' pole.

What are you thinking dude?


Your call.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For sure I'm going to bring it up next week (exams this week). We're going to talk about the impact on Koreans (considering that the guy had lived in the States since he was 7-8 years old not withstanding), how/if it changes their feelings about studying in the US, what might lead a student to do such a thing, how his family and the victims' families are feeling, gun laws in the State (I won't be defending, just explaining the history) and whatever else comes up.

Of course, these are higher level classes where we've already discussed suicide and the fiasco at the hospital in Puchon...
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Neighbors described Cho as extremely quiet, mostly spending time alone at a basketball court and not responding when people said hello.


Boy, do I know how he felt.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great hand-out.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a good handout, but I do wonder whether things like that are designed to benefit the teacher (your own interest in what Koreans think) and not necessarily the students. Maybe it can benefit both, but I personally as a rule try to avoid any materials that I am a little too interested in.

If someone asks me a question about this, of course I shall answer, but I won't bring it up and will choose not to use it as a basis for study.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
It is a good handout, but I do wonder whether things like that are designed to benefit the teacher (your own interest in what Koreans think) and not necessarily the students. Maybe it can benefit both, but I personally as a rule try to avoid any materials that I am a little too interested in.

If someone asks me a question about this, of course I shall answer, but I won't bring it up and will choose not to use it as a basis for study.


Agreed.

I think that any time you prepare materials that is something that should be kept in mind.

However, I think it is difficult to create materials that you have absolutely no interest in.

As an instructor, I think it is YOUR final call on which materials you are comfortable using and which you feel would be best suited for your class.


In an average day, I talk to a lot of Korean adults. Although all feel "uncomfortable" discussing this topic (in different ways), they all brought up the topic with me (even casually over lunch).

I thought that if it's in the newspapers and on people's minds, it might be good to post a hand-out up here for any who would like to use it.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You forgot the crazy cop (50 victims) in Seoul circa. 1982.

cbc
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
You forgot the crazy cop (50 victims) in Seoul circa. 1982.

cbc


Yeah, I was here when that happened.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certainly wouldn't want to discuss this topic in class...talk about "graing-jai" ! This is the second day since we knew it was a Korean and nobody's said a word about it yet at my PB.. Shocked
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3rd day now and not a peep... Very Happy
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The opposite for me.

But hey, I guess people are maybe just more willing to talk to me openly (?)

/cheers though for bumping this to try to prove your point.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We haven't discussed it in class yet, but several students have brought it up during break time. (I'm teaching 10 adult students.) We've been working on compare/contrast stuff all week and this afternoon we have a two-hour writing class.

I'm giving the students a selection of three topics to write about. One of them is this topic. I hope all of them choose this topic, because I do want to know what all of them think about it, but I'm not going to insist. I'm not going to limit the topic to compare/contrast, but will mention that as one option in their approach. Another option is to write a letter to one of my friends back home who have e-mailed me asking how the story is being dealt with here. A third option is an editorial. If I think of any more options before class time at 3, I'll include them as well.

(ONE thing I will not do is print out something from 'a right-wing blog'--not my words, like a co-worker did yesterday and take that in to class.)
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