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Kyrei
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:37 am Post subject: CNN just reported... |
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Maybe this belongs in the Off-topic forum... I'll let the MODs decide that.
CNN just reported that (coincidentally enough) 32 people just died in an industrial accident in which molten steel was poured from an accidentally dumped container onto those who waited below for it to be delivered.
Why have we not heard about the nationality or even the name of the guy who did this? Yeah, sure it was an "accident" but why haven't we heard about the families of those who died in as much (of not more) agony in a molten steel accident than those who died in VT. Is it because the VT victims were innocent bystanders and the miners were doing their jobs?
I just don't get it.
How is the VT tragedy any more (or less) horrific than this? Why are we supposed to focus on that (Virginia Tech shooting) rather than this (molten-steel dumping accident)? Why are deaths in America, or the West in general, more "newsworthy" than deaths in not-America or not-the-West? WTF is wrong with the international media that the tragedy in VT, acknowledged by ALL as being a "crazy guy with access to a gun" more tragic than a series of deaths in China where the administration doesn't give a damn about the safety or welfare of the workers in coal mines or steel mills? This is far from the first such accident, hell they are almost constantly in the news. We CAN stop this kind of tragedy, which makes it all the more tragic... There will always be crazy fukks who lose it and kill others, but this is an institutionalised apathy and why is that less tragic than what happened in Virginia? What is with the media and why does it play to the "Whites Only" small, racist club?
I just don't fukking get it. |
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Cheonmunka
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Can't add nor detract from this post. 100% agreeable.
I believe it's because it's not newsworthy. Not what's perceived as 'News,' but what's required as News.
Also, could it not be that the 'administration' that you talk about is made up in parts of Western investors?
Here's not to sulley a good industrial brand.
PS: Did you see the conditions for workers of the blessed oriental family of Wall Mart?
'Well, they have a roof over their heads 16 hours a day, and rice in their bowls.'
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mnhnhyouh
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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It will sell less advertising or subscriptions.... and that is what makes newsworthy for all commercial networks. When it comes to deciding what is on the news, the bottom line is the bottom line.
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gsxr750r
Joined: 29 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:01 am Post subject: |
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So many possible reasons:
Premeditated acts of murder always get a lot of attention. The steel thing, although tragic, sounds like a freak accident.
Think of it in terms of a news story where one person accidentally shoots another person. Compare that to the coverage of one person walking into another person's workplace, and shooting them.
Which story do you think will gather the most attention?
Duh. |
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Kyrei
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| gsxr750r wrote: |
So many possible reasons:
Premeditated acts of murder always get a lot of attention. The steel thing, although tragic, sounds like a freak accident.
Think of it in terms of a news story where one person accidentally shoots another person. Compare that to the coverage of one person walking into another person's workplace, and shooting them.
Which story do you think will gather the most attention?
Duh. |
Yeah and maybe that is something worth discussion here; a guy who walks into work and through negligence/mistraining/ignorance/apathy causes the death of 32 other people VERSUS a guy who plans, executes, and kills 32 other random people. It was certainly not a "freak accident", just look at the precedents. Which one of those is more newsworthy? If you feel it is the latter then you are a publicity hwore [sic]. If the former, then you are a humanitarian. Personally I am a cynic and believe that the latter will always make headlines because people are individualistic sheet-heads[sic]. I am asking why the deaths of 32 college students in America is more newsworthy than the concurrent deaths of 32 Chinese mine workers . Answer that!
Is it simply the ability to sell commercial time? Is it purely the "marketplace of ideas" concept? If that is what is important then, people are scum. As an open cynic. athiest, and skeptic, I really, really really, hope that people can rise above this but it seems to be not so. If they can't, then Western commercialism is a fukked up way to be, because people can't handle it.
[[Once again, language censorship on discussion boards for language teachers is absurd. Sure, cut away the flaming and insults, but let us say what we mean for fukk's sake.]] |
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Svetlana
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: |
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160 INNOCENT PEOPLE DIED IN IRAQ TODAY. ANOTHER 200+ WERE WOUNDED....
Yet all american media coverage is reporting on the virginia shootings.....
Does anyone else notice how almost all of the parade of students CNN has on camera seem to be smiling during their interviews??? What is wrong with americans??? Do they think they will be "Discovered"?.......... |
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davai!
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:07 am Post subject: |
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160 INNOCENT PEOPLE DIED IN IRAQ TODAY. ANOTHER 200+ WERE WOUNDED....
Yet all american media coverage is reporting on the virginia shootings..... |
Well, actually, Svetlana, Keith Olbermann did a story on just that.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/
Follow the link for "What about Iraq?" |
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swetepete
Joined: 01 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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What the &$%# is 'news' anyways?
When a mentally ill kid goes violently crazy and kills 30 odd people, it's always bad. 32 people getting burned to death by molten metal is always bad. A few hundred Iraqi pedestrians, blown to bits or burnt...yeah, the same. Always bad.
136 000 Chinese were killed in industrial accidents in 2005, according to the BBC article about the molten metal. That's really bad too.
Maybe we should care more about one bad scene than another. I figure maybe we should. But what's the difference? Does the fact that I feel bad for these people do them any bit of good whatsoever?
Nope...not really.
Does all our frothing and ranting, about this atrocity or that, do anything good for anybody? Nope. Unless you count 'feeling like a morally superior person' as 'good.'
And that, I'm afraid, is always bad. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:20 am Post subject: |
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"Fascination with abomination"
Don't know who said that first, but the media sure knows people have it. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: CNN just reported... |
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| Kyrei wrote: |
| WTF is wrong with the international media that the tragedy in VT, acknowledged by ALL as being a "crazy guy with access to a gun" more tragic than a series of deaths in China where the administration doesn't give a damn about the safety or welfare of the workers in coal mines or steel mills? |
First rule of TV "journalism": "If it bleeds, it leads." |
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Svetlana
Joined: 22 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| NBC News has some new photos |
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mateomiguel
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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international news is still tailored for local audiences. I'm sure in the immediate area around the molten metal accident the details about it have taken precedence over the shooting which was much further away. However, in our situation which is equidistant from both events, the guy intentionally murdering 32 people is more sensational than an accident involving molten metal and all the people killed in Iraq for the past few days.
SENSATIONAL. Its a concept. Understand it. |
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Cerebroden
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this is my first time on the forum. since svetlana's new addition.
don't ever let me meet you in public. |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: CNN just reported... |
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| Kyrei wrote: |
Maybe this belongs in the Off-topic forum... I'll let the MODs decide that.
CNN just reported that (coincidentally enough) 32 people just died in an industrial accident in which molten steel was poured from an accidentally dumped container onto those who waited below for it to be delivered.
Why have we not heard about the nationality or even the name of the guy who did this? Yeah, sure it was an "accident" but why haven't we heard about the families of those who died in as much (of not more) agony in a molten steel accident than those who died in VT. Is it because the VT victims were innocent bystanders and the miners were doing their jobs?
I just don't get it.
How is the VT tragedy any more (or less) horrific than this? Why are we supposed to focus on that (Virginia Tech shooting) rather than this (molten-steel dumping accident)? Why are deaths in America, or the West in general, more "newsworthy" than deaths in not-America or not-the-West? WTF is wrong with the international media that the tragedy in VT, acknowledged by ALL as being a "crazy guy with access to a gun" more tragic than a series of deaths in China where the administration doesn't give a damn about the safety or welfare of the workers in coal mines or steel mills? This is far from the first such accident, hell they are almost constantly in the news. We CAN stop this kind of tragedy, which makes it all the more tragic... There will always be crazy fukks who lose it and kill others, but this is an institutionalised apathy and why is that less tragic than what happened in Virginia? What is with the media and why does it play to the "Whites Only" small, racist club?
I just don't fukking get it. |
I agree 100%. 32 people dead is 32 people dead. Desn't matter how it happened. The pain caused for the relatives is the same. It's pure sensationalism. An industrial accident is just so mundane. An armed gunman, deliberately stalking his innocent victims in a supposedly peaceful environment is just so much more out of the ordinary and well has a kind of mystery attached to it also. Why did he do it? I guess it's the human drama of it all - the deliberacy of it, the cruelness... as opposed to the accidental and not directly human cause of the deaths... Yes, the fact that people are less publicly outraged about industrial accidents caused by neglect and exploitation is sickening. It's an apathy on a really sad, sad, scale which makes those complicit in the crime due to their lack of reaction, outrage - really pathetic and fallen creatures.
As I said above - it's the human drama of it.
We are simpler creatures and less worthy of self praise than most of us would imagine.
Svetlana - whoever you are - woman or not - I'd like to punch you as hard as I can in the face. |
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rawiri
Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| It's all about the sexy news. svetlana, you need a good kick in the face. |
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