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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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It seems that Cho's parents work at a dry cleaners. It doesn't seem that they own the dry cleaners. They were from a rather poor Korean American family rather than the high flying ones some of us often see on the East Coast and California, and he didn't look spiffy like the other Korean Americans.
I would criticize their parents, because it took for them to investigate after the shit hit the fan and he was admitted to a ward. Even if he took medicine, it was kind of late. His grandmother said he had various problems, and they didn't seem to deal with it. Of course, for hard, working class immigrant families who don't have a lot of cash it can be tough to deal with such a son. But I just feel they didn't deal with his problems adequately, but it doesn't mean they are bad people. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: |
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igotthisguitarbutnoclue wrote:
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| Ah yes, PROZAC strikes again. |
First, that's an ignorant claim. Independent studies of that drug have not confirmed any link between its use and a tendency toward violence. The only possible link that is still under investigation is the critical phase when the drug is being introduced to the body in the first few months after diagnosis and the beginning of treatment.
And there appear to be no records that Cho ever filled his prescriptions anyhow. |
IGNORe ... ant ...
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=prozac+related+shootings
Ah yes, the POOR Korean dry-cleaning family.
Their daughter went to Princeton. Apparently $50,000 US / year 
According to a government source cited by ABC News, Sun-Kyung works for McNeil Technologies -- a company that, among other things, provides human intel services.
McNeil is owned by Veritas Capital, the parent company for other government contractors such as Athena Innovative Solutions, formerly MZM, the counterintelligence firm central to the Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham bribery scandal, and DynCorp International, a company accused sex trafficking in Bosnia and defrauding the U.S. government of millions of dollars in Iraq.
The advisory council of Veritas Capital includes Richard Armitage, a former deputy secretary of state in the Bush administration; Gen. Barry McCaffrey, who headed the Clinton administration's war on drugs; and Gen. Anthony Zinni, who headed U.S. military operations in the Middle East in the Clinton administration.
Weird, huh? Could it be that the Cho family is connected a little better than Seung-Hui's rant against "debauchery" would have us believe? How did his parents afford the $50K a year to send his sister to Princeton?
Coincidence?
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WASHINGTON (AP) � The sister of the gunman responsible for the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history works as a contractor for a State Department office that oversees billions of dollars in American aid for Iraq.
Sun-Kyung Cho is employed by the Iraq Reconstruction Management Office, according to U.S. officials and a State Department staff directory that says she works from an annex near the department�s headquarters in Washington.
Messages left on her office voicemail, in which she identifies herself as �Sun Cho,� were not immediately returned on Wednesday.
The Virginia Tech gunman was her brother, Cho Seung-Hui. Thirty-three people died in the rampage Monday, including the 23-year-old student, who committed suicide.
Spokesman Sean McCormack declined to discuss Sun Cho�s status but told reporters �this person is not a direct-hire employee of the State Department.� He declined to comment further, citing privacy concerns. Other U.S. officials confirmed she works for a contractor.
The office was set up by President Bush to coordinate the reconstruction program in Iraq and offers jobs to �highly skilled and motivated United States citizens� to work at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, according to State Department documents. The office also has several Washington-based positions.
�Our mission is to support the sovereign, democratic rights of the Iraqi people to govern themselves, defend their country, and rebuild their economy,� the office says in its recruiting brochure. �This ongoing mission is one that is unprecedented in size and scope.�
Sun Cho�s current job is her third stint with the State Department, according to Princeton University, where she graduated with an economics major in 2004.
She previously worked as a summer intern at the department�s International Labor Office and held a three-month economics internship in the summer before her senior year at the U.S. Embassy in Bangkok, Thailand, sponsored by Princeton�s International Internship Program.
�They were the most amazing three months of my life,� Cho told the university�s weekly bulletin in Nov. 24, 2003, article about the program, describing her experiences in the Thai capital.
�I found that the best way to get to know the city was taking the skytrain to random locations and walking around for a couple of hours,� it quoted her as saying.
�I think it is always easy for Americans to maintain an American way of life abroad. The best thing is to avoid these traps and go out there and immerse yourself in a new culture.�
The article described a visit to a border town where she saw deplorable working conditions for Burmese migrant workers.
�She said the experience was so profound that after returning to campus, she changed the focus of her senior thesis to a more labor-related topic,� the article said. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| Did his sister have a scholarship to Princeton? I can't imagine someone working at a Dry Cleaner's since 1992 without owning it would be able to spend 50 grand on her education and also spend on themselves. You would have to make so much money. We need more info. on this family. Also, what about the tuition for their son. Now, it is possible the daughter took out student loans. We don't know enough about this family. I understand that the mother complained to her relatives about her son. But I didn't hear of her taking him to a psychiatrist as a youngster. |
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petethebrick
Joined: 25 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Listen,
The blame lies with Cho himself and with society. At the age of 23, it's nothing to do with his parents. I'm sure it wasn't for lack of effort on their part that they couldn't get thru to their screwed up kid. I really feel sorry for them as well all the victims and their families. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Did his sister have a scholarship to Princeton? I can't imagine someone working at a Dry Cleaner's since 1992 without owning it would be able to spend 50 grand on her education and also spend on themselves. You would have to make so much money. We need more info. on this family. Also, what about the tuition for their son. Now, it is possible the daughter took out student loans. We don't know enough about this family. I understand that the mother complained to her relatives about her son. But I didn't hear of her taking him to a psychiatrist as a youngster. |
Most undergrads and almost all grads who go to unis like that are receiving some sort of financial aid. Princeton could opperate tuition-free for a number of years based on its endowment fund alone. |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| petethebrick wrote: |
Listen,
The blame lies with Cho himself and with society. At the age of 23, it's nothing to do with his parents. I'm sure it wasn't for lack of effort on their part that they couldn't get thru to their screwed up kid. I really feel sorry for them as well all the victims and their families. |
The evidence seems to point to the parents. Cho killed at 23, but he was a ticking time bomb. Even his relatives said they felt there was something wrong with him even before he left Korea. His problems didn't start at 18. Where are the medical records of going to a psychologist or psychiatrist in high school or middle school? We have heard of nothing of that sort. Tell me who is supposed to take you to a shrink when you are 16? You, the minor, or your parents? The parents, of course. Now, of course, he shot them, not the parents, but they didn't take him to a doctor. Why? Another scr*w was the government. A person admitted to a mental facility, by law, isn't supposed to obtain a fire arm. Nonetheless, he got a fire arm. So the system also failed those students.
I am not saying in any shape or form that his parents are bad people.
Far from it. They could have been working class Korean parents who didn't what to do with a child who need psychiatric attention. However, when you're in a country that long, you should figure that out. I was talking to a Korean doctor, and he said that some years back when they would send a patient to a psychiatrist they would say "We are sending you to neurology" instead of using the word psychiatrist. So if his parents were old school, then he didn't go to to a shrink. I guess this was inevitable in a way with a government that can't have its laws applied when it comes to making sure a mental patient doesn't get a gun and parents from a certain cultural mindset not sending junior to a doctor.
It doesn't mean they are bad. This happens. I hope it encourages people to see more warning signs, crack down on bullying, have people seek medical care if they need it etc...
I don't like blaming the parents, but a child is not responsible for seeking a psychiatrist when they are in high school and his problems started long ago.... Who is responsible for making sure one's child is treated?
The parents who provided him with his DNA. Again, those two blame are the university officials, the parents, and the government for allowing someone to get clearance (thought it is against the law) to get a gun.
The system, society, and Cho are to blame. |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Did his sister have a scholarship to Princeton? I can't imagine someone working at a Dry Cleaner's since 1992 without owning it would be able to spend 50 grand on her education and also spend on themselves. You would have to make so much money. We need more info. on this family. Also, what about the tuition for their son. Now, it is possible the daughter took out student loans. We don't know enough about this family. I understand that the mother complained to her relatives about her son. But I didn't hear of her taking him to a psychiatrist as a youngster. |
Why do you need to know jackall about them? Mind your own business.
If you know where his sis got the money for school isn't going to do squat. |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Anybody seen these yet? Damn!
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Any comments on the psycho pics? |
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