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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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 Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr wrote: |
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OK THUNDARR-had to look up the def in WIKI again. here it is.
Witness testimony is a common form of evidence in law, and law has mechanisms to test witness evidence for reliability or credibility. Legal processes for the taking and assessment of evidence are formalized. Some witness testimony could be described as anecdotal evidence, such as individual stories of harassment as part of a class action lawsui
NOTE THE LAST SENTANCE. Very similiar to my bank robber example isn't it? See testimony can be anecdotal!!! |
Yes, SOME witness testimony could be described as anecdotal, when, and I already addressed this, it attempts to provide evidence of a larger trend from a personal observation. (See that part about the class action lawsuit?)
Once again, I win. |
ONCE AGAIN SAYS YOU HAVE WON BEFORE. YOU HAVE NOT.
It does not say ANYTHING about a personal observation about a larger trend. I will agree with you that COULD be one def of anecdotal evidence. However, not the only one.
And, my bank robber example stands as proof just like the class action described above.
Therefore, I AM CORRECT-not thurndarr.
Check. |
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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| BTW thundarr, how old are you? Been in Korea for a while? |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| nwise wrote: |
| Thunndarr wrote: |
| nwise wrote: |
OK THUNDARR-had to look up the def in WIKI again. here it is.
Witness testimony is a common form of evidence in law, and law has mechanisms to test witness evidence for reliability or credibility. Legal processes for the taking and assessment of evidence are formalized. Some witness testimony could be described as anecdotal evidence, such as individual stories of harassment as part of a class action lawsui
NOTE THE LAST SENTANCE. Very similiar to my bank robber example isn't it? See testimony can be anecdotal!!! |
Yes, SOME witness testimony could be described as anecdotal, when, and I already addressed this, it attempts to provide evidence of a larger trend from a personal observation. (See that part about the class action lawsuit?)
Once again, I win. |
It does not say ANYTHING about a personal observation about a larger trend. I will agree with you that COULD be one def of anecdotal evidence. However, not the only one.
And, my bank robber example stands as proof just like the class action described above.
Therefore, I AM CORRECT-not thurndarr.
Check. |
Crap dude, you're spelling is going out the window. Calm down.
It doesn't say anything about a larger trend eh? Do you know what a class action suit is? Cripes. |
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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr wrote: |
| nwise wrote: |
| Thunndarr wrote: |
| nwise wrote: |
OK THUNDARR-had to look up the def in WIKI again. here it is.
Witness testimony is a common form of evidence in law, and law has mechanisms to test witness evidence for reliability or credibility. Legal processes for the taking and assessment of evidence are formalized. Some witness testimony could be described as anecdotal evidence, such as individual stories of harassment as part of a class action lawsui
NOTE THE LAST SENTANCE. Very similiar to my bank robber example isn't it? See testimony can be anecdotal!!! |
Yes, SOME witness testimony could be described as anecdotal, when, and I already addressed this, it attempts to provide evidence of a larger trend from a personal observation. (See that part about the class action lawsuit?)
Once again, I win. |
It does not say ANYTHING about a personal observation about a larger trend. I will agree with you that COULD be one def of anecdotal evidence. However, not the only one.
And, my bank robber example stands as proof just like the class action described above.
Therefore, I AM CORRECT-not thurndarr.
Check. |
Crap dude, you're spelling is going out the window. Calm down.
It doesn't say anything about a larger trend eh? Do you know what a class action suit is? Cripes. |
No- to be anecdotal does not mean it has to be a specific instance IN A TREND. It does not even have to be a single specific instnace. "I saw him beating her up many times" is anecdotal evidence. I'm not saying that it CANNOT be a specific instance in a trend. I'm just saying it doesnot have to be. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| nwise wrote: |
| Thunndarr wrote: |
| nwise wrote: |
| Thunndarr wrote: |
| nwise wrote: |
OK THUNDARR-had to look up the def in WIKI again. here it is.
Witness testimony is a common form of evidence in law, and law has mechanisms to test witness evidence for reliability or credibility. Legal processes for the taking and assessment of evidence are formalized. Some witness testimony could be described as anecdotal evidence, such as individual stories of harassment as part of a class action lawsui
NOTE THE LAST SENTANCE. Very similiar to my bank robber example isn't it? See testimony can be anecdotal!!! |
Yes, SOME witness testimony could be described as anecdotal, when, and I already addressed this, it attempts to provide evidence of a larger trend from a personal observation. (See that part about the class action lawsuit?)
Once again, I win. |
It does not say ANYTHING about a personal observation about a larger trend. I will agree with you that COULD be one def of anecdotal evidence. However, not the only one.
And, my bank robber example stands as proof just like the class action described above.
Therefore, I AM CORRECT-not thurndarr.
Check. |
Crap dude, you're spelling is going out the window. Calm down.
It doesn't say anything about a larger trend eh? Do you know what a class action suit is? Cripes. |
No- to be anecdotal does not mean it has to be a specific instance IN A TREND. It does not even have to be a single specific instnace. "I saw him beating her up many times" is anecdotal evidence. I'm not saying that it CANNOT be a specific instance in a trend. I'm just saying it doesnot have to be. |
Dude, anecdotal means based on personal observation.
Anecdotal evidence means what I've quoted it to mean. Get that through your skull.
Just show me a different definition. That's all I ask. Show me. The word we're looking for is "anecdotal evidence." Not part of it, the whole thing. Together.
Edit: And, at the same time, admit you were being a pedantic ass. Because, clearly, the overwhelmingly accepted definition is what I claimed it was, and any disagreement with that, would be, by definition, pedantic. |
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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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""Dude, anecdotal means based on personal observation""
YES!!! I agree 100%. Your personal observation of something an be offered to prove something.
You are called as a witness to say that you saw the bank robbery. It is your personal observavation, about a specific event, that is not in a trend, which can be used as "proof" by the trier of fact. (Judge/Jury) |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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""Dude, anecdotal means based on personal observation""
YES!!! I agree 100%. Your personal observation of something an be offered to prove something.
You are called as a witness to say that you saw the bank robbery. It is your personal observavation, about a specific event, that is not in a trend, which can be used as "proof" by the trier of fact. (Judge/Jury) |
Edit: Forget it, you're just too dumb. I'm sorry, but there it is. |
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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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wrong.
anecdotal is a type of evidence. Just like epidemiological or scientic evidence. |
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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr wrote: |
| nwise wrote: |
""Dude, anecdotal means based on personal observation""
YES!!! I agree 100%. Your personal observation of something an be offered to prove something.
You are called as a witness to say that you saw the bank robbery. It is your personal observavation, about a specific event, that is not in a trend, which can be used as "proof" by the trier of fact. (Judge/Jury) |
Edit: Forget it, you're just too dumb. I'm sorry, but there it is. |
Ok, on that last one, I quit. You went back to your roots and starting being insulting. If you ever get past that, maybe you will get somewhere. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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wrong.
anecdotal is a type of evidence. Just like epidemiological or scientic evidence. |
And could you please show us the definition of "anecdotal evidence"? Please? Go ahead. I can wait. Just watching some videos here. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:57 am Post subject: |
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| If anyone feels the need to buy a guy they ought to buy an X BOX 360 . |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| If anyone feels the need to buy a guy they ought to buy an X BOX 360 . |
How are you supposed to kill your family with an XBOX 360? |
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Natalia
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:08 am Post subject: |
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Guns are the reason the tragedy happened in virginia. Only a real moron would advocate allowing more gun freedom. americans are total morons for allowing anyone to own a gun, and allowing people to carry with a simple permit.
Guns kill people too easily. How often have you heard of a mass knifing or mass attack with a blunt object? Guns are a cowards weapon because they can kill from a distance. Cowards are prone to these sorts of attacks. americans are cowards. |
and your a dumb *beep*.
If the victims of Russia after WW2 had guns, do you think stalin could have taken and cimmunised eastern Europe so easily? |
I'm sorry, but that is an extremely insulting and utterly stupid thing to say. Clearly you have no idea how it was when the Soviets came storming through the countries, dragging people from their places of work before they even had a chance to retrieve a photograph of their family.
What the days since the shooting have taught me is that trying to talk sense with Americans about gun laws is a waste of time.
The statistics will show you that having stricter gun laws results in far fewer shootings.
But that is conveniently forgotten because it would seem most Americans get off on the feeling of power that comes with owning a gun.
Go ahead. Shoot away. It's your country you're destroying, not anybody else's. |
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kingplaya4
Joined: 14 May 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:37 am Post subject: |
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^^^^^ You worry about your country and we'll worry about ours, sound fair?
The US currently has 200 million guns, with a population that just hit 300 million. It's also huge in size, fourth largest in the world if I remember my geography lessons correctly. Guns aren't going away anytime soon. It would be a "war on guns" and we aren't too good at these kind of wars in the US- see the war on poverty or war on drugs.
Further, I think right now with the expansion of the government and the Constitution being increasingly ignored, this is not what we need. Next thing you know the media will harp on transfats or something, and some types of food will become illegal. I'd like to make decisions myself, not have the government regulate everything, thank you.
I wouldn't be surprised if tougher gun laws wouldn't have stopped this guy Cho, because in his case he problably wouldn't have the social wherewithal to go the illegal route. But despite what the media spouts, the vast majority of these shootings are not done by crazed loners. Take Columbine for example. They were not allowed to buy guns legally, they weren't even 18. But they had friends buy them, and bought one themselves illegally.
I don't see the government being able to melt down say 100 million guns and then prevent new ones from coming onto the market. In the absence of this, I think gun free zones need to go. I lived in rural South Carolina for awhile and men typically walked around with a holsered .38 or .45 and I never heard of rash shootings. I'm sure they've happened, but violence is with us either way. If Cho knew he'd likely be dead after killing 2 or 3 people, maybe he wouldn't have bothered trying or at least he would have done a lot less damage. |
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Natalia
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:46 am Post subject: |
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^^^^^ You worry about your country and we'll worry about ours, sound fair?
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That would be a hell of a lot easier if every tiny thing that happened in the US wasn't blasted around the world.
Then you come online and everywhere you go is a lot of crap from Americans stating that they both want to have firearms and want to stop school shootings. It isn't possible to have both.
What pisses the rest of the world off is that the US upholds their ridiculous gun laws and then comes whingeing whenever someone in their country legally purchases a gun and goes and kills a whole lot of people.
All I've seen on this board in the last week is Americans quoting the rubbish from the NRA.
How long are we supposed to keep expressing our sympathy? |
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