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pdx
Joined: 19 Jan 2007
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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It's actually quite different here than where I am from. I'm not from a huge city, but it's at least a city, and people there are friendly and say hi to each other on the street, or at LEAST smile at each other. So it's quite weird when that doesn't happen here. Most unnerving is the stares you get from Koreans, and when you give them a smile (i don't really mind them staring), they look away.
But, then again, i agree with whoever said it- why DO we feel the need to say hi to someone- what bonds us together other than the fact that we are both foreigners? |
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query29
Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Location: right behind you
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Why not say Hi to someone you see? And there are more similarities than just being foreign to this country. Both prople have probably taken the road less travelled and taken the chance to visit another country and do something relatively unique.
I've only been here a couple of months and it wierded me out the first time I saw another foreigner so I didn't say hi. After reading this post, I can say that I will say hi to you if I see you from now on, so please be friendly back! |
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rawiri

Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Well it's funny because it depends on who i'm talking to at the time. Some are friendly and some really aren't, some are even in the middle between friendly and not friendly!. It would just be so much easier if everyone from anywhere else all acted the exact same way so we wouldn't have to deal with these uncomfortable situations. |
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kimchi story

Joined: 23 Nov 2006
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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pdx wrote: |
Ha. My roommate and I live in a part of Seoul where there aren't very many foreigners, and we don't work with any foreigners, so we are constantly pointing out foreigners when we see them on the street or subway. I mean.. not pointing, but we give each other a look or say "there's a white guy". It's just such.... I don't know. We're stupid.
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I totally know that look. While my gf was visiting we started playing 'roundeye', our own version of 'punch buggy'. Stupid, for sure. And a little stupid fun goes a long way around here, imo. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Sine qua non wrote: |
OP, you're not from a city are you? You sound like you spent a lot of time in a small town back home. |
People in Montreal are much friendlier, in general, than the Canadians and Americans over here. Or, that is my impression. People in Ottawa are not so bad as well. I can't speak for Toronto or New York. I have lived in a big city in Texas where the people were as friendly as people in Montreal, but I thought the people of Montreal were largely real. |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:51 am Post subject: |
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Paji eh Wong wrote: |
You know, I've noticed that US military personnel are much more friendly than other expats. I wonder why that is? |
They're armed? |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 4:18 am Post subject: |
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I've seen people post on this site that they meet other teachers on the street all of the time. When I see other teachers, ESPECIALLY WOMEN, they GLARE like they own the sidewalk. I guess "blonde from a bottle" now comes with "attytood", too.
I guess the ones in Itaewon think that just because Nigerians and soldiers hit on them, they're "bootyfull."
Well, I have news for them- soldiers hit on ANYTHING in a skirt. Put a wig, lipstick, and a dress on a dog and walk it around any US military post, and it'll get marriage proposals.
Guess I'll stick to dating Koreans. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 4:22 am Post subject: |
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dogbert wrote: |
Paji eh Wong wrote: |
You know, I've noticed that US military personnel are much more friendly than other expats. I wonder why that is? |
They're armed? |
I haven't had much exposure to the soldiers, but the ones I talked to seemed friendly, so if I just based my experiences on the few soldiers I met I would say they were generally friendlier than the teachers, but I don't have enough of a pool of soldiers to come to some general conclusion. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 4:35 am Post subject: |
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The expat lifestyle is one of here today, gone tomarrow and of independent thinking people. It is a lonesome independent self led state of being. I sure would like to have friends that I hang out with or people to have interesting discussions with, but this is not available as they stay on thier computers and to themselves. So I go to my computer too. Foreigner bars alienate me even more than the country itself, becuase it is an artificial socialization concept set up in a foreign land. The computer plays a huge part of why people seem so unfriendly, besides the fact that experienced expats know what it is to have a friendship go to waste due to the 2 being separated by changing careers.
As an experienced expat, I still am willing to have friendships on a personal level when the conditions are right, because good friendship is a very special happyness that is rarely found. Fear and misconceptions are the barrier preventing from socialization and friendships occuring.
Of course, to my memories, people were not a bit friendly in Saint Louis Missouri USA, becuase it was all about social status and money. They do seem a bit friendlier here, but no one that becomes a good friend. Of course, I am living in a small dong where I never see another foreigner outside of work. It's as Korean as you can get. And one lonesome journey it is.... |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 4:35 am Post subject: |
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EDITED* darn a danged double post due to computer error.  |
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: Central Areola
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: |
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wylies99 wrote: |
I've seen people post on this site that they meet other teachers on the street all of the time. When I see other teachers, ESPECIALLY WOMEN, they GLARE like they own the sidewalk. I guess "blonde from a bottle" now comes with "attytood", too.
I guess the ones in Itaewon think that just because Nigerians and soldiers hit on them, they're "bootyfull."
Well, I have news for them- soldiers hit on ANYTHING in a skirt. Put a wig, lipstick, and a dress on a dog and walk it around any US military post, and it'll get marriage proposals.
Guess I'll stick to dating Koreans. |
wylies99 you are a narcissistic prat. Do you possess some magic teacher radar that tells you whether a foreign woman you pass in the street is a teacher or not? Where do I get such a device?
It appears like you haven't had much luck in your own country. Did you hang out with the foreign exchange students at school?
I spend a good amount of time in Itaewon and have done for years with a lot of awesome intelligent girls from different countries. Give up with the borrowed stereotype of Itaewon already, it's clear that you know nothing about the place. It's a diverse community with a multitudes of nationalities residing there, sports clubs, cultural and social groups.
Please stick to your own advice and date Koreans, I know a LOT of girls who will be stoked that a prat like you won't be trying to date them. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Very funny. Ladies, I'm not just a piece of meat- I have feelings!
BTW- you win. You know more than me about Itaewon and the people who hang there, looking for a cheap drunk and an easy piece of a--.  |
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hgatejesser
Joined: 23 Apr 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:57 am Post subject: |
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I tend to smile at / acknowledge more foreigner randoms than Koreans...It's less of a "whoo-hoo, kindred spirits" reaction and more so that Korean men seem frightened of me and Korean women kind of give me the once over..
So I suppose it's a chance for that daily stranger interaction I got used to living in a smaller town the last few years...
I think that military types are more friendly than your average foreigner because their social environments are so much less clique-ish than the real world (usually by default)... |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: |
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I think some people become (more) weird after living here long enough, and may be used to being alone, not socializing often. Maybe some lose some social skills. Such people might not seem friendly sometimes. You got to give strangers some slack, some benefit of the doubt if they are standoffish, not really rude. |
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Vicissitude

Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Location: Chef School
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: |
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hgatejesser wrote: |
I think that military types are more friendly than your average foreigner because their social environments... |
Face it, they don't work for Koreans. They don't have to worry about dealing with Koreans in their line of work. If anything goes wrong for them in Korea, they have the backing of the US government. That and they can buy their goods from a commisary rather than Hannam supermarket or Costco. Nuff said. |
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