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Although the debate about natural vs phama is somewhat related, this isn't really what the video was about.

It had more to do with nutrition, food and an international trade agreement that is set to allow some extremely toxic substances (which have been banned for years) to be used again. Furthermore once this deal comes into effect, it will become increasingly difficult for nations, companies, farmers or individuals to grow or produce food without interferance from this agreement.

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There is a lot more at stake here than the regulation of herbal remedies.

http://www.care2.com/news/member/205173323/288844

Here are a few facts we received from Rima Laibow, MD:

Codex Alimentarius requires that all meats, poultry, fish, fruit and vegetables must be irradiated by Dec. 31, 2009.
Codex Alimentarius requires that all dairy cattle are to be given Monsanto bovine growth hormone by Dec. 31, 2009.
Codex Alimentarius reclassifies vitamin and mineral supplements as toxins and dramatically limits their dosage and availability.
Many nations have already harmonized their laws with Codex Alimentarius making it their de facto law. This has already been approved by the European Union, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and others.
Codex Alimentarius allows significant trade sanctions to be levied against noncompliant nations.
In 2005 there were five bills submitted to congress to weaken or eliminate DSHEA.
The teleseminar below is an interview with two highly qualified observers. They are well educated in the details of Codex Alimentarius, Western medicine, and the manipulation of public opinion. Check it out. Pass it along to your friends.

It was only through the awareness and actions of the American consumers that DSHEA was passed in 1994.



For further reading:

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=157

2) �Nutrients are Toxins� Is Junk Science
Codex Alimentarius Commission (CAC) has two committees which impact nutrition.

One of them, the �Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses� (CCNFSDU), is chaired by Dr. Rolf Grossklaus, a physician who believes that nutrition has no role in health. This is the �top-guy� for Codex nutritional policy, and he has stated that �nutrition is not relevant to health�.

As unbelievable as it may sound, Dr. Grossklaus actually declared nutrients to be toxins in 1994 and instituted the use of toxicology (Risk Assessment) to prevent nutrients from having any impact on humans who take supplements! It is worth mentioning that Dr. Grossklaus happens to own the Risk Assessment company advising CCNFSDU and Codex on this issue. This company makes money when its toxicology services are used for the �assessment� of nutrients. Here in the U.S. we call that a �conflict of interest�.

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http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=157

Codex is made up of thousands of standards and guidelines. One of them, the Vitamin and Mineral Guideline (VMG), is designed to permit only ultra low doses of vitamins and minerals (and make clinically effective nutrients illegal). How can the VMG restrict dosages of vitamins and minerals? By using Risk Assessment (toxicology) to assess nutrients.

While Risk Assessment is a legitimate science (it is a branch of toxicology), it is the wrong science for assessing nutrients! In fact, in this context, it is actually junk science. Biochemistry, the science of life processes, is the correct science for assessing nutrients. Codex Alimentarius treats nutrients as toxins, which is literally insane.

Nutrients are not toxins - they are essential for life.



As for the question about growth hormones....I believe it means that farmers who do not give their animals this hormone will not be allowed to sell their products legally and as such will be subject to criminal charges if they do. However, I am not up on the finer points of this stuff, but if you want more information, you can check here.

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=161

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I cut and pasted some relevant parts from the site.


http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=168


Consequences to Human & Environmental Health
Implementation of Codex Alimentarius would result in severe repercussions for both human and environmental health. If implementation of Codex is not averted, here are a few of the damaging changes we will have to live with:

High potency nutrients? Illegal.
Valuable nutrients not on Codex list? Illegal.
New nutrients or herbs? Illegal.
Traditional medicines with nutritional value? Illegal.
Antibiotic and hormone-free milk, poultry, fish and meat? Not available from supermarket due to degraded organic standards.
Safe levels of pesticides, hormones, animal drugs and other toxins? Gone.
Labeling for GMOs? Illegal.
Non-irradiated food? Illegal.




Loss of Access to Natural Health Products Would Result in Huge Increase In Illness
This July 4, in Rome, the Codex Alimentarius Commission (CAC) ratified the destructive Codex Alimentarius �Vitamin and Mineral Guideline�.

Vitamins and minerals in doses high enough to do have a therapeutic effect could become just a memory if America harmonizes with the Vitamin and Mineral Guideline. Other nutrients (such as amino acids and herbs) will, according to Codex, follow quickly. The driving force of the VMG is economic, not medical, and has nothing to do with consumer protection, as explained here.

High potency nutritional products are highly beneficial for health. Many people would suffer greatly if nutritional products were removed from their reach while health promotion and disease prevention would be nearly impossible without them.



Mandating Irradiated Food
Codex Alimentarius mandates the irradiation of food (yes, makes it obligatory!) unless it is eaten locally and raw. Irradiation of food creates high concentrations of free radicals which cause cancer, degenerative diseases, premature aging, organ damage and immune damage. The only protection that we have against irradiation of food is antioxidants. But protective levels of these vital nutrients would be forbidden under Codex.



And for more information:

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=163


Conclusion Formed From Independent Analysis
No one called up the Natural Solutions Foundation (sponsor of HealthFreedomUSA.org) to say �I have been asked by the inner circle of the Codex Alimentarius Commission to tell you why Codex exists and who profits from it�.

Rather, our analysis is based on observation and deductive logic. What you are about to read represents the opinions of the Natural Solutions Foundation�s founding members.

Invitation to Show Us Otherwise
If you feel that our analysis is incorrect, we invite you to contact us and explain why you feel that way. We would like to be proven wrong. We would welcome being shown that Codex Alimentarius indeed does serve as �protection� for consumers (as is the official explanation). Unfortunately, that is not the reality of the situation. The real reason for Codex Alimentarius is economic. It has to do with wealth, not health. We say this after our Medical Director (Rima E. Laibow, M.D.) meticulously studied over 16,000 pages of Codex documentation. If you do as much research as we have done, you would no doubt come to the same conclusion as us.



If you disagree with their analysis, that's your choice. I for one feel that they have raised enough concerns to warrant further investigation and I certainly hope that this CODEX Alimentarius never becomes law.

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The Pharmaceutical Racket

In the early half of this century the petrochemical giants organised a coup on the medical research establishments, hospitals and universities. The Rockefellers did this by sponsoring research and "donating" monetary gifts to US universities and medical schools where research was drug based and further extended this policy to foreign medical establishments via their International Education Board. Those who were not drug based were refused funding and were soon dissolved in favour of the more lucrative pharmaceutical-based projects.

In 1939 the 'Drug Trust' alliance was formed by the Rockefeller Empire and I.G. Farben.

After the war, I.G. Farben was dismantled but later emerged in the many guises of the companies with whom they had signed cartel agreements.

These companies include: Imperial Chemical Industries (ICI), Borden, Carnation, General Mills, M.W. Kellogg Co., Nestle, Pet Milk, Squibb and Sons, Bristol Meyers, Whitehall laboratories, Procter and Gamble, Roche, Hoechst and Beyer and Co. (two extant pharmaceutical companies who initially employed convicted war criminals Friedrich Jaehne and Fritz ter Meer as board chairmen).

The Rockefeller Empire � in tandem with the Chase Manhattan Bank now owns over half of the USA's pharmaceutical interests and is the largest drug manufacturing combine in the world. Since the war the drug industry has steadily netted an ever increasing profit from sales of drugs to become the second largest manufacturing industry in the world next to the arms industry (also owned by the self same Elite agencies).

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/brotherhoodpart9.shtml

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There are many who question the safety of food irradiation:

http://www.organicconsumers.org/irradlink.cfm

If you had watched the original video, perhaps some of your questions would be already answered.

This stuff is not coming out of thin air. These are people who have studied the CODEX ALIMENTARIUS and have drawn their conclusions based on what they have found.

You want everyone to just blindly trust that this is in our best interests.

I prefer to be skeptical.

Why not watch the video, and then comment?

http://www.care2.com/news/member/205173323/288844