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Letters from Foreigners in Korea in Middle School Textbook
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thu_tinh



Joined: 27 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Letters from Foreigners in Korea in Middle School Textbook Reply with quote

read below for my terrible post.

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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:56 am    Post subject: Re: Letters from Foreigners in Korea in Middle School Textbo Reply with quote

thu_tinh wrote:
anyone have an ideas that they could help me with?
So in this chapter the basic target 'What do you think of....."
and "I think...."
and the reading part in the chapter is about Korean's crazy taxi drivers, Student's celebrating Teacher's day, and how noisy Korean's are in the park.
I would like to do some sort of poster activity for this chapter but I'm not sure.
another teacher has suggested that I teach 'how to write letters'. But my thinking is that, there is no format besides "Dear" unless you are writing a really formal letter.
Maybe a letter of complaint?
would it be too hard for 2nd graders?


Don't teach them how to write letters until you figure out how to write PERIOD.

Just a thought.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Re: Letters from Foreigners in Korea in Middle School Textbo Reply with quote

jazblanc77 wrote:
thu_tinh wrote:
anyone have an ideas that they could help me with?
So in this chapter the basic target 'What do you think of....."
and "I think...."
and the reading part in the chapter is about Korean's crazy taxi drivers, Student's celebrating Teacher's day, and how noisy Korean's are in the park.
I would like to do some sort of poster activity for this chapter but I'm not sure.
another teacher has suggested that I teach 'how to write letters'. But my thinking is that, there is no format besides "Dear" unless you are writing a really formal letter.
Maybe a letter of complaint?
would it be too hard for 2nd graders?


Don't teach them how to write letters until you figure out how to write PERIOD.

Just a thought.


There's no need for a comment like that. I don't think the OP would write the way he does here in a formal letter.
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject: Re: Letters from Foreigners in Korea in Middle School Textbo Reply with quote

butlerian wrote:
jazblanc77 wrote:
thu_tinh wrote:
anyone have an ideas that they could help me with?
So in this chapter the basic target 'What do you think of....."
and "I think...."
and the reading part in the chapter is about Korean's crazy taxi drivers, Student's celebrating Teacher's day, and how noisy Korean's are in the park.
I would like to do some sort of poster activity for this chapter but I'm not sure.
another teacher has suggested that I teach 'how to write letters'. But my thinking is that, there is no format besides "Dear" unless you are writing a really formal letter.
Maybe a letter of complaint?
would it be too hard for 2nd graders?


Don't teach them how to write letters until you figure out how to write PERIOD.

Just a thought.


There's no need for a comment like that. I don't think the OP would write the way he does here in a formal letter.


Yeah, well if it was just a matter of a couple of spelling errors, forgetting to put a comma somewhere, or not capitalising the first word of a sentence here and there, I could understand that feces happens. However, that is clearly not what is going on with the OP's writing. The only thing that is working for this writing sample is the OP's spelling ability. There are problems in syntax, word order, punctuation, completely messed up uses of possessive and personal pronouns, and sentence fragmentation, just to name a few.

News flash: if I was writing formally, I wouldn't use the style that I've used in this thread either. It's just a guess, but I think it's safe to say that fewer people would take issue with my writing ability than what has been put on display, above, by the OP.

OP, please tell me that you are not being paid as a native speaker.
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thu_tinh



Joined: 27 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Re: Letters from Foreigners in Korea in Middle School Textbo Reply with quote

jazblanc77 wrote:
butlerian wrote:
jazblanc77 wrote:
thu_tinh wrote:
anyone have an ideas that they could help me with?
So in this chapter the basic target 'What do you think of....."
and "I think...."
and the reading part in the chapter is about Korean's crazy taxi drivers, Student's celebrating Teacher's day, and how noisy Korean's are in the park.
I would like to do some sort of poster activity for this chapter but I'm not sure.
another teacher has suggested that I teach 'how to write letters'. But my thinking is that, there is no format besides "Dear" unless you are writing a really formal letter.
Maybe a letter of complaint?
would it be too hard for 2nd graders?


Don't teach them how to write letters until you figure out how to write PERIOD.

Just a thought.


There's no need for a comment like that. I don't think the OP would write the way he does here in a formal letter.


Yeah, well if it was just a matter of a couple of spelling errors, forgetting to put a comma somewhere, or not capitalising the first word of a sentence here and there, I could understand that feces happens. However, that is clearly not what is going on with the OP's writing. The only thing that is working for this writing sample is the OP's spelling ability. There are problems in syntax, word order, punctuation, completely messed up uses of possessive and personal pronouns, and sentence fragmentation, just to name a few.

News flash: if I was writing formally, I wouldn't use the style that I've used in this thread either. It's just a guess, but I think it's safe to say that fewer people would take issue with my writing ability than what has been put on display, above, by the OP.

OP, please tell me that you are not being paid as a native speaker.


ouch. sorry that my writing bothers you.
I was in a hurry when writing and I didn't bother to re-read what I wrote.
I will be more careful next time around.
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makemischief



Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: Traveling

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore the grammar trolls. If you didn't make sentence errors they wouldn't have anything to get off to.

O dear God, I left a dangling preposition! Very Happy

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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:18 am    Post subject: Re: Letters from Foreigners in Korea in Middle School Textbo Reply with quote

jazblanc77 wrote:
butlerian wrote:
jazblanc77 wrote:
thu_tinh wrote:
anyone have an ideas that they could help me with?
So in this chapter the basic target 'What do you think of....."
and "I think...."
and the reading part in the chapter is about Korean's crazy taxi drivers, Student's celebrating Teacher's day, and how noisy Korean's are in the park.
I would like to do some sort of poster activity for this chapter but I'm not sure.
another teacher has suggested that I teach 'how to write letters'. But my thinking is that, there is no format besides "Dear" unless you are writing a really formal letter.
Maybe a letter of complaint?
would it be too hard for 2nd graders?


Don't teach them how to write letters until you figure out how to write PERIOD.

Just a thought.


There's no need for a comment like that. I don't think the OP would write the way he does here in a formal letter.


Yeah, well if it was just a matter of a couple of spelling errors, forgetting to put a comma somewhere, or not capitalising the first word of a sentence here and there, I could understand that feces happens. However, that is clearly not what is going on with the OP's writing. The only thing that is working for this writing sample is the OP's spelling ability. There are problems in syntax, word order, punctuation, completely messed up uses of possessive and personal pronouns, and sentence fragmentation, just to name a few.

News flash: if I was writing formally, I wouldn't use the style that I've used in this thread either. It's just a guess, but I think it's safe to say that fewer people would take issue with my writing ability than what has been put on display, above, by the OP.

OP, please tell me that you are not being paid as a native speaker.


You're an absolute idiot. The OP comes here to ask for help with regards teaching and the only thing you can do is post useless criticism. Next time, why don't you try helping him to answer the questions he posed before launching into your critique of his writing style?
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: Letters from Foreigners in Korea in Middle School Textbo Reply with quote

butlerian wrote:
jazblanc77 wrote:
butlerian wrote:
jazblanc77 wrote:
thu_tinh wrote:
anyone have an ideas that they could help me with?
So in this chapter the basic target 'What do you think of....."
and "I think...."
and the reading part in the chapter is about Korean's crazy taxi drivers, Student's celebrating Teacher's day, and how noisy Korean's are in the park.
I would like to do some sort of poster activity for this chapter but I'm not sure.
another teacher has suggested that I teach 'how to write letters'. But my thinking is that, there is no format besides "Dear" unless you are writing a really formal letter.
Maybe a letter of complaint?
would it be too hard for 2nd graders?


Don't teach them how to write letters until you figure out how to write PERIOD.

Just a thought.


There's no need for a comment like that. I don't think the OP would write the way he does here in a formal letter.


Yeah, well if it was just a matter of a couple of spelling errors, forgetting to put a comma somewhere, or not capitalising the first word of a sentence here and there, I could understand that feces happens. However, that is clearly not what is going on with the OP's writing. The only thing that is working for this writing sample is the OP's spelling ability. There are problems in syntax, word order, punctuation, completely messed up uses of possessive and personal pronouns, and sentence fragmentation, just to name a few.

News flash: if I was writing formally, I wouldn't use the style that I've used in this thread either. It's just a guess, but I think it's safe to say that fewer people would take issue with my writing ability than what has been put on display, above, by the OP.

OP, please tell me that you are not being paid as a native speaker.


You're an absolute idiot. The OP comes here to ask for help with regards teaching and the only thing you can do is post useless criticism. Next time, why don't you try helping him to answer the questions he posed before launching into your critique of his writing style?


Completely seconded, waht a dikc,
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost



Joined: 28 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP was pretty inscrutable.
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thu_tinh



Joined: 27 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CasperTheFriendlyGhost wrote:
The OP was pretty inscrutable.


yes. I already said I was sorry. I don't know what else I can do now.
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happeningthang



Joined: 26 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't expect too much from second graders.

Maybe the poster idea is better suited than letter writing. Perhaps a poster in a comic strip format, with a student's self portrait and speech bubble, "I think...blah blah blah", and an accompanying picture to react to. Then a second panel of student asking a friend, "What do you think of...blah blah blah".

If you're ambitious you could asign students who asks who and make a comic strip of the whole class, from one kid to the next.

Could be fun for the kiddies drawing themselves and a friend, while using the target language in a way that's direct and simple.
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Vicissitude



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Letters from Foreigners in Korea in Middle School Textbo Reply with quote

jazblanc77 wrote:


Yeah, well if it was just a matter of a couple of spelling errors, forgetting to put a comma somewhere, or not capitalising the first word of a sentence here and there, I could understand that feces happens. However,


You mean mistakes. Are you a perfectionist too? I know it's one of my faults as well, but I'm working on it. Confused
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

happeningthang wrote:
I wouldn't expect too much from second graders.


Or from other ESL "teachers" for that matter.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Re: Letters from Foreigners in Korea in Middle School Textbo Reply with quote

Quote:

News flash: if I was writing formally, I wouldn't use the style that I've used in this thread either.


If I were writing formally...

Mr. Green

The subjunctive and all that...

I'll just be going now...
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let he who has not committed a crime cast the first stone!

I call BS.

Sorry, OP, but your writing was seriously hard to read. I'm not saying that my writing is perfect. In fact, I realize that after spending 5 years here my writing has become seriously compromised. That said, I'm pretty sure my ramblings here are fairly easy to understand.

I mean, we can nit-pick each other's writing until we're blue in the face (is there such a thing as perfect writing?), but the OPs writing has a nit on it the size of Kentucky (ie. can't help not pick!ing).

Writing is about communication - that's why the OPs fails, not because of some misuse of the subjunctive (which you'd have to be completely anal to point out).

And, while I'm at it: why is everyone so g'darn PC? Be a little Korean - if the writing sucks, is it really such a bad thing to say? Will it hurt the OPs feelings? Maybe! He's a big boy (or girl). Maybe it will be better next time.

Why is it acceptable to write like crap on message boards anyways? "I'd never write like this in my formal writing!". Whatever. if you're an English teacher, you should have gotten enough practice writing that even your 'crap' writing shouldn't be that bad.

Rant/Ramble over.
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