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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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 Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
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| Professor Steven Jones, a Ph.D. physicist and cold fusion expert |
Isn't that like saying you're an expert in nothing? |
Straw man and highly inaccurate. Beneath you. (I thought.)
You all claiming this collapse is meaningful in terms of 9/11 are reaching, and lying.
1. Nobody of any intelligence has said fire can't melt steel. Why claim they have?
2. Of course it can. It depends on the intensity, temperature, duration and type of metal.
3. This bridge - apparently steel-reinforced concrete - is not in any way similar. If it were a completely metal bridge you *might* have a slight comparison, but even then it would be a poor comparison indeed.
4. All this speculation with no professional analysis?
A little intellectual honesty, as opposed to ideological excuse-making, is in order. |
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cbclark4
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
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| Professor Steven Jones, a Ph.D. physicist and cold fusion expert |
Isn't that like saying you're an expert in nothing? |
Straw man and highly inaccurate. Beneath you. (I thought.) |
I see no strawman fallacy. It's a poisoning the well fallacy, maybe. He claims to be an expert in a field that no reputable scientist would claim is a field (cold fusion or fairy physics whatever). Since he's clearly a nut, why should we believe him? There's an argument to be made that line of thinking is poisoning the well.
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
A little intellectual honesty, as opposed to ideological excuse-making, is in order. |
Ummm, why does the sarcasm of the bridge collapse "argument" escape you? It's merely parody, like the Death Star conspiracy link. In any disaster, there are always odd things. One can posit a conspiracy based on these odd or confusing things. To demonstrate the veracity of that claim, let's draw parallel between something that is clearly an accident and 9/11. Some people argue the earth is flat. Do they do this because they believe it so? No. They just do it for reasons of parody and intellectual exercise. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
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| Professor Steven Jones, a Ph.D. physicist and cold fusion expert |
Isn't that like saying you're an expert in nothing? |
Straw man and highly inaccurate. Beneath you. (I thought.) |
I see no strawman fallacy. It's a poisoning the well fallacy, maybe. He claims to be an expert in a field that no reputable scientist would claim is a field (cold fusion or fairy physics whatever). Since he's clearly a nut, why should we believe him? There's an argument to be made that line of thinking is poisoning the well. |
To call any scientific endeavor, whether or not you think it likely to produce something or not, fairy physics just makes you look stupid. MOST science is accidental and/or providential. MOST science takes us nowhere. It's like photography: 1 good one one out of hundreds. Thus, you are spaeking from bias and bias alone. Thus, you are showing ignorance.
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
A little intellectual honesty, as opposed to ideological excuse-making, is in order. |
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| Ummm, why does the sarcasm of the bridge collapse "argument" escape you? |
Did you post the OP? No. Backtracking now on someone else's behalf? Please... Pull your head out, eh?
Aren't you tired of chasing me around the board twisting things about to try get a shot in? Pretty pathetic. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:32 am Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
To call any scientific endeavor, whether or not you think it likely to produce something or not, fairy physics just makes you look stupid. MOST science is accidental and/or providential. MOST science takes us nowhere. It's like photography: 1 good one one out of hundreds. Thus, you are spaeking from bias and bias alone. Thus, you are showing ignorance. |
Cold fusion has been rather well studied and found wanting for repeatable results. At some point, you can stop looking for fairies or cold fusion and move on.
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| Did you post the OP? No. Backtracking now on someone else's behalf? Please... Pull your head out, eh? |
It seems from his follow on comment about Jews not being on that overpass would put him in the parody camp. Did you miss that?
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Aren't you tired of chasing me around the board twisting things about to try get a shot in? Pretty pathetic. |
Paranoid much? Aren't you the one that brays endlessly about ad hominem attacks? And it seems my comments were directed at IGTG on this thread. You responded to me. Are you suddenly imagining comments directed at whole other users are shots at you? Or having the audacity to actually dare respond to a comment you made directly to me constitutes chasing after you? Amazing. I'm sorry but when a person responds to another user and you see this as evidence you're being persecuted... well... there's a diagnosis for that. Go hunt around DSM IV.
What was your advice now about getting my head out of something or another? You probably want to heed your own wisdom from time to time. |
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