Korean Job Discussion Forums

[Cheonmunka]

I believe that you were naive six years ago to enlist. It's a serious problem that you have. Most people might not understand your sensitivity within yourself that has developed the last few years.

I think you have to follow what's in your heart. If that means a prison term at the end of it, it might just have to be that way.
It's a big step but have you looked into renouncing your citizenship while finding a place abroad? I think other men have done this during trying times and as a last resort.

[kimchi_pizza]

Goodness, this is turning into a Walmart Get-well soon!, Hang-in-there! card.

"Vietnam-style call up"? The media and entire country would be up-in-arms if that happened. Dude, it's called Inactive Ready Reserve. Didn't you pay any attention to your recruters?

When you or any one enlists, it's for 8 years! How you serve those years is kinda up to you. 2 years active duty, then 6 as Reserve, or NG or IRR. Or like me, 5 years Active Duty and 3 years IRR (at which time I could've been legally called up at any time for any reason). It isn't until after those 8 years that you are actually discharged from the military and cannot be called up even if there is a draft.

The fact that they did call you up for the N.G. is a bit troubling as I spent my remaining IRR attending universtiy in peace using my G.I. Bill as most others did as well. It may be a sign of low recruitment or something going down with your unit, possibly deployment and needed to fill the ranks.

Either way, you should've known and been prepared for it. No sympathy here.

[Richard Krainium]

[wylies99]

Yes. What's your MOS? I was in a critical strength MOS with a number of extra qualifications and I haven't been recalled. Your attitude is puzzling if you were familiar with military life.

[kimchi_pizza]

Think we got a G.I. Troll on our hands, fellas. I feel like I've just been suckered. He obviously hasn't the slightest idea of what he's talk'n about. He was a little odd before he left Korea...good thing he's back home.

G.I. Trroooolllll! Go TROLL!

Off topic, but the Transformers movie's coming out soon so how about seeing Cobra Commander on the big screen?

[cbclark4]

[lastat06513]

......I am not asking for sympathy, nor am I trying to phish nor troll for any kind of response...I was just stating my opinion....Remember, if you don't like what you read, move on.....

I am now more increasingly anti-Iraq war, some of you sound pretty selfish, saying all that stuff from half a world away, more power to you....

I am not in a critical MOS and get this, I enlisted in 1994 (almost 13 years ago).....so yeah, it was abit odd to be called back after I ALREADY COMPLETED my mandatory 8-years...But then again....I guess that doesn't really count, again, read the presidential order.

As for changing my nationality to dodge it....no...I have better ideas around this one.....there is more than one way to skin a cat

To my friends and well-wishers, I'll keep you posted....to all others, well...

I thought a university education is suppose to make you smart..but considering some of the posts here....I beg to differ.....

[Richard Krainium]

[cbclark4]

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/pdf/enlistment.pdf

Your initial enlistment is for 8 years x years (Usually 4 sometimes 6) of active duty, the remainder in a reserve component.

If you served six years fulltime and never fulfilled your reserved component, your are obligated to two more years in reserves at the whim of the President. Also you are in and obligated until 6 months after the end of hostilities, it's in your contract. You may at any time seek council with JAG, they are more than happy to answer your questions on the matter of your contractual obligation. Your contract was written so as to be understood by the average eighth grade student.

As far as your sense of honor and commitment are concerned, I think you may be beyond hope. Remember keep your head down, keep your eyes open.

Also see Section 10-4 of your original contract.

cbc

[cbclark4]

Section 10-4 of your contract holds your obligation through the duration, since October 7, 2001, if you were on active or reserve status as of that date you are obliged through the duration, plus 6 months.

goodluck

cbc

[dmbfan]

O.P.

I feel for ya..........if there is nothing you can do about it, then just keep your arss in the grass.......and get home safely!

We still love you guys!


dmbfan

[lastat06513]

My commitment was suppose to have ended in 2002.
And unknown to most, I had to call in to the IRR personnel manager every month to let them know my status (basically, they would put a check next to my name as being "present" for any emergency, that started after 9/11- I think some people would remember the announcements on AFN, asking those in the IRR to call a certain number) all the way up to August, 2002, when my contract expired.

Well, yeah...there is nothing much I can do about it...for now....

[Richard Krainium]

[CasperTheFriendlyGhost]

Don't serve the war pigs. Stay out of Iraq.

[Cheonmunka]

I also believe in all my heart American leaders don't deserve the rights to kill so many of their young in order to get rich or satisfy their policy. Many people didn't sign up for that. They signed up for a good strong country, and in many cases naively to see the world. Then, sooner rather than later, and too late after signing their names, they found out who they were really going to die and lay down their life for.

So, you guys who say, 'Get your arse down and listen to your instructors,' you are really missing a greater part of the Op's message.

God bless you. And if you are unlucky enough to get hit, know that we've all gotta meet an equal fate in the end. What else can we say?

What a defeatest situation. F^%$ the War!