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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Gang ah jee: you last six posts deal only with me. |
What can I say? Hypocrisy fascinates me. Now could we have some more "Michael Moore is fat" jokes please? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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No, no, no. Come on back, gangie. Come here, gangie! Say something else witty...come on, puppy! I asked for number seven and you gave it. Now I want number eight.
Come on, gangie! Bark again and I might throw you a fat-joke treat. |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Tee hee hee! |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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There you go!
I will house-break you yet. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares if Moore is fat? Does being fat make someone bad? I believe Howard Taft was very fat. And, FDR was handicapped, but a handicapped FDR was better than many presidents in America's history. I am not a big fan of his, but I think he raised many relevant ideas in his movies such as "Bowling for Columbine" and "Fahrenheit 9/11". However, I disagreed with his portrayal of Charlton Heston in "Bowling for Columbine" who was going through a lot of difficulties and making it seem as if the NRA was callous, because they didn't cancel an even set up in advance.
I also disagree with his making one think that Saudi Arabia invests 800 billion a year when that figure was actually their total investments.
Those are two very different matters. However, I would rather have Moore any day over the neo-conservatives who really have messed things up in the country. Moore is the least of America's problems. He did, however, break laws by seeking medical treament, but, in theory, so would a poor student studying in a Cuban medical school. The Cuban sanctions don't really make sense, anyway. |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
There you go!
I will house-break you yet. |
Er, you know dogs eat gophers, right? Of course, gophers have a natural defense -- running and cowering in the holes that they've dug themselves. See for yourself: http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7433.html
Anyway, more fat jokes! Ask me how fat Michael Moore is. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| The Cuban sanctions don't really make sense, anyway. |
So is it all right for Moore to unilaterally decide he is going to break the law here? If that is the case, Adventurer, I can think of quite a few laws that make little or no sense to me either.
And no, I will not listen to a grotesque fat-guy wagging his finger at me over health issues without commenting on the absurdity of it. And yes, we have more options than your "Moore-or-the-neocons" dichotomy presents, thank God.
In any case, let the Fat-Bastard wannabe "slam" the American govt all he likes -- it seems to be his lot in life. But unfortunately, he has just positioned himself so that the American govt might just slam him right back -- and I, for one, am knocking on wood that Washington might indeed just do it. |
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ChimpumCallao
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: your mom
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Who cares if Moore is fat? Does being fat make someone bad? I believe Howard Taft was very fat. And, FDR was handicapped, but a handicapped FDR was better ... |
FDR is an argument best saved for later...
I don't think you're getting the point, and am quite surprised as it is quite obvious.
The point is not that he is fat; it is that this is a man who moans and screams about American hedonism and overconsumption is the prime and shining example of a gluttonous hedonistic life. He is a rich, white morbidly obese man who drives a gaz guzzling SUV, who preaches out and seems to hate others who are just like him; white rich men who don't care about the environment and over-consume. It is irony personified.
Honestly the embargo is very stupid...because it is a law doesn't make it 'wrong' or 'right'. That is an infantile concept.
Doesn't mean that fat f**k doesn't annoy the living beejesus out of me though. Hope he chokes on a BigMac while he's making a documentary about the evils of fast food. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: |
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1) The embargo is stupid.
2) Moore is a fat sick leftist prat. CC said it best.
If you want to talk about hypocrisy, gag, moore should be your focus and not Gopher. By the by, have you ever even been to the USA? You might want to consider a long visit if you are going to fancy yourself an armchair expert on her politics.
3) This is distortion from the right to take away from the message of Moore's film. And the message (that the yank health care system is 'sick') is a true one. His solutions would, however, likely make it worse.
4) This is great publicity for Moore' film. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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1) The embargo is stupid.
2) Moore is a fat sick leftist prat. CC said it best.
If you want to talk about hypocrisy, gag, moore should be your focus and not Gopher. By the by, have you ever even been to the USA? You might want to consider a long visit if you are going to fancy yourself an armchair expert on her politics.
3) This is distortion from the right to take away from the message of Moore's film. And the message (that the yank health care system is 'sick') is a true one. His solutions would, however, likely make it worse.
4) This is great publicity for Moore' film. |
I think the fat comment doesn't have its place here, no offense. It is like one of those things like ageism and any form of discrimination. So many people in America from all political persuasions are fat. Some people in my family make fun of people that are fat. I think it's uncalled for, bad manners.
As far as Moore, is he an opportunist? Yes, he is. Should he observe laws regarding the sanctions? He should, but the sanctions should be changed?
Should he be more accurate when filming whether he is dealing with the NRA in the Columbine movie or Fahrenheit 9/11 when he was very misleading about Saudi investments and their influence in the country.
I did like the two movies, I must say, and some of the stuff he says is true. I am glad I watched his movies. As far as SUVs, I have never owned one. A family member did, but he has a wife and a couple of kids and the mother in law comes, and he is a realtor. It isn't for fun. It is simple to judge people with SUVs whether on the Left or Right.
Yes, if Moore broke the law then he is liable. I am not sure about the merits of prosecuting him over something related to producing a film.
He wasn't funding Castro or supporting him in any direct way. What are the exact objections to what he did that would actually really subvert the U.S.? I suppose Moore is the Left's equivalent of O'Reilly. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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I think you can judge people with SUV's. They're not needed. They are the purest sign of over consumption and they are NOT NEEDED. Everyone who has one claims they need it, but thats just not true.
There is a difference between need and want. That is a lesson I think most of us need to be taught. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| I suppose Moore is the Left's equivalent of O'Reilly. |
Yup. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I am not sure about the merits of prosecuting him over something related to producing a film. |
What are you talking about? Why are you acting as O'Reilly's defense counsel?
And do you truly believe that "making a film" is a valid defense?
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| I suppose Moore is the Left's equivalent of O'Reilly. |
Absolutely.
And if O'Reilly defied the embargo, I'd say "fine his loudmouthed-ass," too.
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ChimpumCallao
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: your mom
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| BJWD wrote: |
1) The embargo is stupid.
2) Moore is a fat sick leftist prat. CC said it best.
If you want to talk about hypocrisy, gag, moore should be your focus and not Gopher. By the by, have you ever even been to the USA? You might want to consider a long visit if you are going to fancy yourself an armchair expert on her politics.
3) This is distortion from the right to take away from the message of Moore's film. And the message (that the yank health care system is 'sick') is a true one. His solutions would, however, likely make it worse.
4) This is great publicity for Moore' film. |
I think the fat comment doesn't have its place here, no offense. It is like one of those things like ageism and any form of discrimination. So many people in America from all political persuasions are fat. |
You still are not grasping the concept. Let me try one more time.
Criticising someone's weight in response to their political views is bad argumentation, irrelevent, and not very nice. It would not be logically or morally correst to, say, Rosie O'Donnel if I called her a fat d*ke in response to her stance on gun laws. Understood.
HOWEVER-
When someone takes a stance against overconsumption, greed, gluttony, and (I believe he mentioned this in his book) American obesity and is the glaring physical example of all these horrible attributes he claims to be against, it makes him look like an ass- and all his arguments are moot.
The point is not that he is fat- at all. The point is that he is a hypocrite.
Take for example O'Donnel again. The fact that she is so vehemently anti- ALL guns, yet her bodyguards pack more heat than the FBI make her a hypocrite and her arguments moot. Nothing to do with her being fat, but everything to do with these screaming "personalities" not being able to practice what they preach so strongly about but expect US to follow. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Michael Moore is all about self-promotion. He's the quintessential leftist hypocrite. He doesn't give two sh-its about half the issues he spouts off about. But of course he believes fervently, or so he professes, that he has earned these materialistic things because he is doing noble deeds.
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| I believe that the decision to conduct this investigation represents the latest example of the Bush Administration abusing the federal government for raw, crass, political purposes," |
The only thing raw is the sunburn on his man-boobs.
Gopher:
Thanks for another good laugh--the photos, I mean. Revealing isn't it how it's o.k. for the left to poke fun at Limbaugh's weight but when the same is done of Moore we're stepping over the line.
Moore should be the poster boy of Fast Food Nation. What a pig. And his docu-dramas are just that--to entertain more than actually inform.
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| "I'm not a big fan of his, but..." |
Right, but you ARE a fan nonetheless.
I'd love to see Al Sharpton and Michael Moore in an X-Treme Sport contest. I'd pay good money to see that on pay-per-view. |
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