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charlieDD
Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 4:05 pm Post subject: The things Korean keep doing once stateside |
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Hacking (as in violent clearing of the throat) in the shower. Been using the gym at the nearby university. (For $20 a month I get complete access.) In the shower room the occasional group of Korean guys come in. (They tend to do things in groups here, I've noticed.) Shower starts and the hacking starts. They don't seem to even notice all the other people giving them disapproving looks of disgust.
Drying the pubes: Saw Korean guys . . couldn't be but 20 . .taking turns using a wall-mounted hand-dryer in the toilet next to the shower in the men's locker room drying their hair (on head) first, then the hair under their arms, and then trying to angle their lower bodies up enough to get the hot air to dry their pubes. Again, oblivious to the stares.
Not sure what to term this one: A Korean man and woman, late 20's, come into small UPS store to make some photocopies. The man can speak a bit of English. He starts off with (to the clerk) "I need help." So, the clerk, a woman in her early 60's, helps him, very warmly I might add, to set up the copier and make the copy the way he wants it. When it comes time to pay, I hear the Korean woman saying to the guy in Korean something about they shouldn't have to pay for the three copies that the clerk made when trying to get the copy to exactly the size and such that they wanted. The man is saying to forget it; it's just 10 cents a copy and the woman helped us. The woman keeps insisting. Then, suddenly she can speak English! She goes up to the counter and starts arguing that they don't have to pay for the ones the clerk made in setting it up ! The man calms her down and pays the 54 cents they owed (including local tax) and they leave, her scolding him all the way out the door ! The clerk says to me "And I thought I was so nice to them."
At a supermarket, a Korean couple are debating which donuts they want to take home, in Korean language. They're taking some out - - with the plastic tongs, as they should - - then bringing them up to their faces and smelling them. The man even touches one and puts his finger up to his tongue to taste the powdery sugar he's picked up off it. The ones they don't want, they're putting back on the rack (inside the glass case). The supermarket clerk scolds them, telling them "Now I have to replace this whole rack. That's against the health regulation, don't you know?" The Korean couple say a few words between themselves in Korean and then just move on. No apology.
Blocking aisles: Again at a supermarket, an Asian guy is trying to choose from among the dozens of different spaghetti sauces available. He's got his cart left of center of the aisle and he's blocking the rest of the aisle. I approach expecting him to see me approaching and move his cart out of the way. No. I say "Excuse me" . . doesn't even look at me. I think "This dude has got to be Korean" (looks very aujulshi like as well) I say loudly, "Could you move your cart out of the way?" He looks at me like "What?" .. .. "Your cart, dude. You can do this in Korea, but here you're supposed to watch for other people." He gives me a "hmmmphh" and moves it. I'm thinking "It's only time before you do that to someone who's not going to understand "cultural differences" ! " |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hilarious! I can picture it all. You take take someone out of their country, but you can't take the country out of them... or something like that. Still, it makes me think... I wonder what we (as foreigners in Korea) are doing that rubs them the wrong way (besides simply being foreigners in Korea ^^)... could be a new thread I guess... |
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Bingo
Joined: 22 Jun 2006
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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I remember visiting Victoria, British Columbia, once. I was sitting at the beautiful inner harbour near the Empress Hotel enjoying the scenery. A huge cruise liner had just arrived and yourists were getting off at the harbour. This Korean family passes by where we're sitting and the ajoshi (not off the ship five minutes) starts horking onto the ground. I felt like walking up and slapping him across the head.
They just don't get it. They visit an area where there is zero garbage on the ground, the scenery is beautiful, the streets are manicured to the last detail, the buildings are ornate. And what's the first thing the Korean male does. Hork on the ground.
And, of course, totally oblivious to the angry glares he's receiving from people. |
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charlieDD
Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Mix1 wrote: |
Hilarious! I can picture it all. You take take someone out of their country, but you can't take the country out of them... or something like that. Still, it makes me think... I wonder what we (as foreigners in Korea) are doing that rubs them the wrong way (besides simply being foreigners in Korea ^^)... could be a new thread I guess... |
Yeah, I too thought of that. However, I think most of the foreigners I knew in Korea made a conscious effort to know what bothered Koreans about foreigners behavior and tried to avoid doing these. I get the sense that the Koreans coming to the states just don't seem to feel or realize they have to do that.
I don't see the Chinese students or workers here on the campus and in the community doing things I would consider odd. Don't see the Japanese or Indians doing things like this. The Koreans really stick out for this kind of behavior, from what I am seeing here in this university town.
(Related: I found out from a Japanese grad student at the university here that Japanese students and scholars are encouraged in a pre-departure pamphlet they get to buy American cars while they are here in the states as our guests as a kind of social grace,and many do. As I mentioned in a post a few weeks ago, from my observations, the Koreans buy Japanese cars almost exclusively here, avoiding American cars along with Hyundais and Kias.) |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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charlieDD wrote: |
The Koreans really stick out for this kind of behavior, from what I am seeing here in this university town. |
That's because they take Korea with them everywhere they go. |
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billyJO
Joined: 13 May 2007 Location: Qatar
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: behave.. |
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i notice that after a crazy weekend in a bar....sorry. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Hacking (as in violent clearing of the throat) in the shower. |
A few years ago I roomed with an American born and raised in Japan who did the same.
I think these stories are better examples of non-Koreans overgeneralizing about a few rude people than they are of any kind of incorrigible Koreanness. Two years in Korea I never saw any donut sniffers or 10-cent hagglers. I have seen plenty of Koreans abroad acting completely normal. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:22 am Post subject: |
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seoulsucker wrote: |
That's because they take Korea with them everywhere they go. |
Luckily we're all much better at leaving our own culture behind when we go to another country.
Or better yet, our culture is perfect or the natural way, and everyone else should conform to it. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:00 am Post subject: |
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When in Rome, do as the Romans. I have developed a habit of pushing people and littering. Might as well. But I don't push 'foreigners'. I know better than that.
You can take the Korean out of Korea, but you can't take the Korea out of the Korean. |
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VirginIslander
Joined: 24 May 2006 Location: Busan
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PimpofKorea

Joined: 09 Dec 2006 Location: Dealing in high quality imported English
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: |
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seoulsucker wrote: |
charlieDD wrote: |
The Koreans really stick out for this kind of behavior, from what I am seeing here in this university town. |
That's because they take Korea with them everywhere they go. |
Thats why I take America wherever I go....I do my damnest to make Koreans feel uncomfortable or pissed off when I deem it necessary. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: Re: The things Korean keep doing once stateside |
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charlieDD wrote: |
Hacking (as in violent clearing of the throat) in the shower. Been using the gym at the nearby university. (For $20 a month I get complete access.) In the shower room the occasional group of Korean guys come in. (They tend to do things in groups here, I've noticed.) Shower starts and the hacking starts. They don't seem to even notice all the other people giving them disapproving looks of disgust.
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I do that all the time. My whole family does it pretty much. I'll be sitting at the computer and clearing my throat as if I had just walked out of a coal mine. Makes my Korean girlfriend crazy.
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Drying the pubes: Saw Korean guys . . couldn't be but 20 . .taking turns using a wall-mounted hand-dryer in the toilet next to the shower in the men's locker room drying their hair (on head) first, then the hair under their arms, and then trying to angle their lower bodies up enough to get the hot air to dry their pubes. Again, oblivious to the stares.
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Helps get rid of the itchiness and chafing. I rarely use a hairdryer, but when I do, I don't mind a bit of a hot rush between the scrote and legs.
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Not sure what to term this one: A Korean man and woman, late 20's, come into small UPS store to make some photocopies. The man can speak a bit of English. He starts off with (to the clerk) "I need help." So, the clerk, a woman in her early 60's, helps him, very warmly I might add, to set up the copier and make the copy the way he wants it. When it comes time to pay, I hear the Korean woman saying to the guy in Korean something about they shouldn't have to pay for the three copies that the clerk made when trying to get the copy to exactly the size and such that they wanted. The man is saying to forget it; it's just 10 cents a copy and the woman helped us. The woman keeps insisting. Then, suddenly she can speak English! She goes up to the counter and starts arguing that they don't have to pay for the ones the clerk made in setting it up ! The man calms her down and pays the 54 cents they owed (including local tax) and they leave, her scolding him all the way out the door ! The clerk says to me "And I thought I was so nice to them."
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Hell yeah. 10 cents a copy for setting it up is a rip off. The clerk should know the proper settings.
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At a supermarket, a Korean couple are debating which donuts they want to take home, in Korean language. They're taking some out - - with the plastic tongs, as they should - - then bringing them up to their faces and smelling them. The man even touches one and puts his finger up to his tongue to taste the powdery sugar he's picked up off it. The ones they don't want, they're putting back on the rack (inside the glass case). The supermarket clerk scolds them, telling them "Now I have to replace this whole rack. That's against the health regulation, don't you know?" The Korean couple say a few words between themselves in Korean and then just move on. No apology.
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I do stuff like that when no one's looking. Sometimes at the grocery store, I'll go into the bulk bins and fish out candy and chocolate with my hand to see which ones I like. My friends do that too.
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Blocking aisles: Again at a supermarket, an Asian guy is trying to choose from among the dozens of different spaghetti sauces available. He's got his cart left of center of the aisle and he's blocking the rest of the aisle. I approach expecting him to see me approaching and move his cart out of the way. No. I say "Excuse me" . . doesn't even look at me. I think "This dude has got to be Korean" (looks very aujulshi like as well) I say loudly, "Could you move your cart out of the way?" He looks at me like "What?" .. .. "Your cart, dude. You can do this in Korea, but here you're supposed to watch for other people." He gives me a "hmmmphh" and moves it. I'm thinking "It's only time before you do that to someone who's not going to understand "cultural differences" ! " |
Guilty of that too. Don't like it? Go move it yourself. Not everyone is a compulsory accomodater in this world.
I know I sound like an apologist perhaps, but regardless of the country people are from, many of them do rude sh*t. |
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Donkey Beer

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: |
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1. Smelling foul in public. Too many times have i walked into a foul train car.
2. Talking really loud in public.
3. Burping and farting in public as if it's normal behavior.
4. Picking their noses in public. I've seen this often on the train.
5. Picking the wax out of their ears and then holding it up to get a good look or sniff. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:44 am Post subject: |
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Donkey Beer wrote: |
1. Smelling foul in public. Too many times have i walked into a foul train car.
2. Talking really loud in public.
3. Burping and farting in public as if it's normal behavior.
4. Picking their noses in public. I've seen this often on the train.
5. Picking the wax out of their ears and then holding it up to get a good look or sniff. |
I do all that too, but I usually just wipe the earwax on the seat because it's odorless anyway. |
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gyopogirlfromtexas

Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Location: Austin,Texas
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="charlieDD"]
Mix1 wrote: |
(Related: I found out from a Japanese grad student at the university here that Japanese students and scholars are encouraged in a pre-departure pamphlet they get to buy American cars while they are here in the states as our guests as a kind of social grace,and many do. As I mentioned in a post a few weeks ago, from my observations, the Koreans buy Japanese cars almost exclusively here, avoiding American cars along with Hyundais and Kias.) |
So do a lot of Americans, it's not just the Koreans. How many cars are as reliable as a Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla, not to mention being friendly to the environment and 39mpg hwy, 31mpg city? Most other cars are gas guzzling, unreliable, always breaking down pieces of junk. I'm not trying to argue which nation makes better cars, but it's true. It's not which country made this vehicle, is it realiable is the big question.
The American cars now are better than they used to be, because they realized that they had to compete with the japanese' reliable and gas efficient cars. That's why they stopped making junk cars that break down all the time sometime in the late 90's. I know the old steel cars were reliable too, I guess sometime after the 50's they started making junk cars. If a car keeps having problems, breaks down, has some parts go bad, people have to buy parts, spend money on the mechanics, it's getting the economy going.
My white ex bf, had a 1993 Ford mustang convertible. Broke down frequently,(he got it new too) and he told me to never buy American, unless it's the newer ones. Even now, gm is losing money, especially as gas prices are climbing. Who in the right mind wants to waste money driving some suv or other gas guzzling vehicle? At $3 a gallon?
And if you look at the gas emissions and pollutions of vehicles by nations, as seen on that Al Gore's Global Warming (Inconvenient Truth), Americans have the worst vehicles in the world. All the other countries take in consideration of gas, reliablility, and trying not to pollute the environment. I guess maybe people care more about just selling the darn thing, and not improving. I don't see why gm and ford keeps making these junk cars, instead of studying the technology of the good foreign cars and making improvements to their cars so they can catch up. If they did that, I'd buy American .
Not even that many Americans themselves, buy these type of cars. At least not here in Austin, because people actually care about the environment here. I see Hondas, Hybrids, and Toyotas all over the place. Sure, i do see some foreign or American luxury cars, toyota trucks, suvs, and other cars too. Sometimes even a ford truck too. Well, this is TX after all. Even when I was in Dallas, I still saw mainly Toyotas, Hondas and status symbol cars. Would you want to buy something that is reliable, has good ratings by car experts and positive ratings by other users?
Everyone I knew who drove fords had problems with their car. The reason people like Honda and Toyota is because they're the most reliable vehicles. Even I've never ever had one break down on me. I always regularly have it maintained in good condition and take it to the car shop to get routine things done. I've had some gm cars, and they always broke down on me. Every single one of them. Maybe it was a bad experience, or maybe the cars were junk.
I also save so much gas too compared to most people. It's nice what Japanese are doing buying American to be nice and I'm not disagreeing, regardless of where it's made from, but you should buy things that last. |
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