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[ddeubel]

Cosmo,

you are showing how little your universe is by dealing in cheap shots.

By the criteria you posted, all "civilized" nations would be considered terrorists. You disprove your own point.

I watched the movie, "Catch a fire" last night. Great movie but it reminded me of how the Afrikaners, labeled all those of the ANC as "terrorists", just dehumanized them all. tortured at will, calling them terrorists, brought in their families and tortured them -- all in the name of them being "terrorists". They thought in a complete world of self inflicted fantasy. They made more "terrorists" and lost that "war"........ We would do well to think of this example of recent times, to reflect upon the present. Same situation is happening......

Your attitude is just productive when dealing with terrorists. Label those that act and kill like this as kooks but don't broadly paint all with that label....idiotic, simpleton....that is what the article BB posted is suggesting. It isn't about sympathizing, it is about considering the features on the ground and not just stupidly applying your own worldview onto something which needs "intelligence".

DD

DD

[Gopher]

[Big_Bird]

[thepeel]

Nah, they are terrorists.

[Big_Bird]

[Gopher]

You betray your politics, of course, Big_Bird.

[Big_Bird]

[cosmo]

[contrarian]

Big bird shore has her/his knickers in a knot.

Adventurer sits with a supercillious grin sniffing on a cigar and all can think of is that is must have the same smell as Bill Clinton's.

DD is not going to get inovled, but her manages six long posts so far.

Hezbollah is a terrorist organization. Period.

It has committed acts of terror. I advocates the anaihilation of the Jews and driving them into the ses.

It attacks shielded by civilians and then complains about the caualties.

It pays people to fake photographs.

It attacks and kidnaps soldiers.

It is Islamic. Not all Muslims are terrorists but nearly all terrorists are Muslim.

[cosmo]

If you are looking for an alternative for "terrorist" here is part of an interview with a 22 year CIA veteran with expertise on the matter.
He referred to Hezbollah paramilitary forces as a "lethal nuisance".

Lethal Nuisance. That sounds fine.

Hezbollah should be put on a Lethal Nuisance List.

Oh but that was back in 2004, when Hezbollah was receiving less support and were less powerful than now.

OK, keep them on the Terrorist List.

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=10477

Michael Scheuer on the 'War on Terror'
Michael Scheuer served in the CIA for 22 years before resigning earlier this year. He is the once anonymous author of Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror and Through Our Enemies' Eyes: Osama bin Laden, Radical Islam, and the Future of America. He served as the Chief of the bin Laden Unit at the Counterterrorist Center from 1996 to 1999. He resigned from the CIA in 2004. This interview was conducted on 10 December 2004 by the Jamestown Foundation's Terrorism Monitor Editor Mahan Abedin.

MA: But looking at these issues from a purely security perspective, I mean in your former career as a senior intelligence officer did you form the impression that the pre-eminent threat now hails exclusively from certain Sunni Islamist quarters?

MS: I think that has always been the case. Hezbollah was never more than anything than a lethal nuisance to the U.S. and even Israel. Israel held onto large chunks of southern Lebanon in order to defeat Hezbollah's paramilitary forces, not because they faced threats from Hezbollah overseas. I have always been of the opinion that it is both a qualitative and quantitative difference. Hezbollah has never been anything more than a nuisance whereas the Sunni organizations, in particular al-Qaeda, pose a potent national security threat to the United States.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

Kobar 1996

Marine Barricks in 1983

They have done other stuff as well.

until Igmad Mugania is in Jail keep Hizzbllah on the terror list

[Summer Wine]

Terrorism is widely understood to be actions against civilians that cause terror and fear to make a political change. Those groups who carry out actions only against civilians and not both military targets and civilians could be considered truly terrorist organisations.

I would though tend to classify groups whose actions on a percentage scale leaned more toward civilian attacks rather than purely military attacks as being terrorist. I guess I would also classify groups who have no real reason for existance other than to attack another party as being terrorists.

Using those criteria, I would probably classify most groups already called terrorist groups as terrorists. I am a little uncertain how to classify the tamil tigers, because they seem to lean as much towards ongoing military actions as towards purely terror causing actions.

I personally don't support terrorist actions regardless of who carries them out as it seems rather cowardly and forces the group who does them to have too much innocent blood on their hands thus nulifying in my mind any benefits their actions and goals have.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

[cosmo]

Speaking of Hamas, here is a video of Hamas TV.
Mickey Mouse character promotes armed violence for a wonderful Islamic ruled future world.
TV station manager refuses to cancel the show because of the educational value.

http://www.aish.com/jewishissues/mediaobjectivity/Mickeys_Message_of_Hate.asp
Mickey's Message Of HATE by Gil Ronen
Hamas' Mickey Mouse teaches kids to hate and kill, and contrary to initial reports, it's still on the air.

Hamas TV has a new children's show which features a Mickey Mouse look-alike. But this Mickey does not romp about with Pluto, he teaches his young viewers to fight the "Zionist Occupation" and dream of a world dominated by Islam.

The show, called "Tomorrow's Pioneers", features a giant black-and-white Mickey Mouse-like character, called "farfour," or butterfly in Arabic. The program made headlines worldwide because the character has preached against Israel and the US and praised armed resistance.

According to Palestinian Media Watch , "using a character based on an appealing, world-famous and beloved icon like Mickey Mouse to teach Islamic supremacy and resistance as Islamic duty is a powerful and effective way to indoctrinate children."

The program encourages participation by child viewers, who phone in to the show and recite poems with images of hate and violence; for example, "We will destroy the chair of the despots, so they will taste the flame of death," and, in another poem, "Rafah sings 'Oh, oh.' Its answer is an AK-47. We who do not know fear, we are the predators of the forest."

According to AP, Palestinian Information Minister Mustafa Barghouti, an independent, said Wednesday that the show reflects a "mistaken approach" to the Palestinian struggle for independence and would be suspended immediately, to allow for a review.

But on Friday, Barghouti would only say the station had promised to correct any problems.

The station's manager, Hazem al-Sharawi, said the show has an educational message and will not be canceled. On Friday, the lead character said he cheated in his exams because "the Jews destroyed my house," and he lost his books under the rubble. Children called in telling him his behavior was un-Islamic.

Also during the show, the adult presenter and the station manager, al-Sharawi, told viewers that once Islam rules, its message of "good and peace" will also rule.

Click here to watch selections of the show, courtesy of Palestinian Media Watch.

[ddeubel]

That there are terrorists, I've no doubt
But too many want too much to
shout it out......
Where's the love y'all?

Terrorists kill, terrorists maim,
We all got 'em and were all the same.
People hurtin' , people crying
Where's the love y'all?

Terrorism is just another word for
nothing left to lose
A kinda freedom that's empty
a bottle with no booze,
So Where's the love y'all?

People labeling, cardboardizing
Making everything unsurprizing
they've been taught to hate
I say it still ain't. too late to ask,
Where's the love y'all?