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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:

And what is "a barney," Big_Bird?


From the urban dictionary:

Barny: Chiefly Australian slang. A fight or disagreement. Often denotes physical conflict.
Quote:
First holiday with the Missus and had only one barny (albeit a drunken one).


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At this moment I'm reading: The Electronic Intifada
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
...A fight or disagreement. Often denotes physical conflict.
Quote:
First holiday with the Missus and had only one barny (albeit a drunken one).


Ah. Like "Basher," the British guy in Ocean's Eleven?


Quote:
Basher: That poxy demo crew haven't used a coaxial feed to batten the main line, have they? Instead they've gone and nosed up the backup grid, nosed it right up!
Reuben: [to Livingston] Do you understand any of this?
Livingston: I'll explain later.
Basher: So unless we intend to do this job in Reno, we're in barney.
[everyone pauses]
Basher: Barney Rubble.
[they look bewildered]
Basher: Trouble!
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cosmo



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At this moment I'm reading The Intifada: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/intifada.html

Large Print Version:

The Intifada
by Mitchell Bard

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False charges of Israeli atrocities and instigation from the mosques played an important role in starting the intifada. On December 6, 1987, an Israeli was stabbed to death while shopping in Gaza. One day later, four residents of the Jabalya refugee camp in Gaza were killed in a traffic accident. Rumors that the four had been killed by Israelis as a deliberate act of revenge began to spread among the Palestinians. Mass rioting broke out in Jabalya on the morning of December 9, in which a 17-year-old youth was killed by an Israeli soldier after throwing a Molotov cocktail at an army patrol. This soon sparked a wave of unrest that engulfed the West Bank, Gaza and Jerusalem.

Over the next week, rock-throwing, blocked roads and tire burnings were reported throughout the territories. By December 12, six Palestinians had died and 30 had been injured in the violence. The following day, rioters threw a gasoline bomb at the U.S. consulate in East Jerusalem. No one was hurt in the bombing.

In Gaza, rumors circulated that Palestinian youths wounded by Israeli soldiers were being taken to an army hospital near Tel Aviv and "finished off." Another rumor, claimed Israeli troops poisoned a water reservoir in Khan Yunis. A UN official said these stories were untrue. Only the most seriously injured Palestinians were taken out of the Gaza Strip for treatment, and, in some cases, this probably saved their lives. The water was also tested and found to be uncontaminated.

The intifada was violent from the start. During the first four years of the uprising, more than 3,600 Molotov cocktail attacks, 100 hand grenade attacks and 600 assaults with guns or explosives were reported by the Israel Defense Forces. The violence was directed at soldiers and civilians alike. During this period, 16 Israeli civilians and 11 soldiers were killed by Palestinians in the territories; more than 1,400 Israeli civilians and 1,700 Israeli soldiers were injured.

Throughout the intifada, the PLO played a lead role in orchestrating the insurrection. The PLO-dominated Unified Leadership of the Intifada (UNLI), for example, frequently issued leaflets dictating which days violence was to be escalated, and who was to be its target. The PLO's leadership of the uprising was challenged by the fundamentalist Islamic organization Hamas, a violently anti-Semitic group that rejects any peace negotiations with Israel.

Jews were not the only victims of the violence. In fact, as the intifada waned around the time of the Gulf War in 1991, the number of Arabs killed for political and other reasons by Palestinian death squads exceeded the number killed in clashes with Israeli troops.

PLO Chairman Yasir Arafat defended the killing of Arabs deemed to be "collaborating with Israel." He delegated the authority to carry out executions to the intifada leadership. After the murders, the local PLO death squad sent the file on the case to the PLO. "We have studied the files of those who were executed, and found that only two of the 118 who were executed were innocent," Arafat said. The innocent victims were declared "martyrs of the Palestinian revolution" by the PLO (Al?Mussawar, January 19, 1990).

Palestinians were stabbed, hacked with axes, shot, clubbed and burned with acid. The justifications offered for the killings varied. In some instances, being employed by Israel's Civil Administration in the West Bank and Gaza was reason enough; in others, contact with Jews warranted a death sentence. Accusations of "collaboration" with Israel were sometimes used as a pretext for acts of personal vengeance. Women deemed to have behaved "immorally" were also among the victims.

Eventually, the reign of terror became so serious that some Palestinians expressed public concern about the disorder. The PLO began to call for an end to the violence, but murders by its members and rivals continued. From 1989-1992, this intrafada claimed the lives of nearly 1,000 Palestinians.
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cosmo:

Things haven't changed much, have they? Hamas, the martyr brigades, and others love to foment unrest among their people and incite them to violence against Israel. It's despicable and unproductive until you consider that their stated aim is to wipe out Israel. I have no respect for the current Hamas government and neither, I'm sure, does Abbas.

Now we see that the ONLY time Palestinians aren't cutting each other's throats is when Israel launches a retaliatory attack.

The Arabs have no sincere interest in democratic governance--zilch. This is the critically erroneous (although laudable) assumption that Bush and Blair made with Iraq. Are we in agreement?

Please feel free to chime in Gopher.
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happeningthang



Joined: 26 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In an effort to keep the thread on track...

Siddharta - Herman Hesse

The Language Instinct - Stephen Pinker (3rd read)

On Photography - Susan Sontag

The Origins of Japanese Literature - Karatini Kojin

Kokoro - Natsume Soseki

Kafka on the Shore - Haruki Murakami

Newspapers: The IHT, the Australian, and the Guardian.
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Big_Bird



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:

Ah. Like "Basher," the British guy in Ocean's Eleven?


Quote:
Basher: That poxy demo crew haven't used a coaxial feed to batten the main line, have they? Instead they've gone and nosed up the backup grid, nosed it right up!
Reuben: [to Livingston] Do you understand any of this?
Livingston: I'll explain later.
Basher: So unless we intend to do this job in Reno, we're in barney.
[everyone pauses]
Basher: Barney Rubble.
[they look bewildered]
Basher: Trouble!


No, barney in that instance is cockney rhyming slang for trouble - i.e. barney rubble rhymes with trouble.

COSMO:

Please take the time to properly read the OP.

Gopher wrote:
Also, please do not criticize anyone for whatever they might write. Just list what you are reading right now, see what others are reading, and move on...


Then take your pro-Israeli stance to its proper place - i.e. a new thread. This thread is for listing what you read, not posting propaganda or long articles. Nor is it a place to have one of your dull and witless flamewars. Goodday to you.

Currently reading:

The Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA)
Women for Palestine
MADRE
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cosmo



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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currently reading:

ISLAM: The Religion Of Peace
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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cosmo



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Current-Events Forum: What are you reading right now...? Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
This thread simply asks what various Current-Events Forum contributors are reading at the moment. Curious to know what kind of information various posters here regularly take in. If you read internet soruces and not books, such as a particular journalist's column or a particular source of information, then list that. Also, please do not criticize anyone for whatever they might write. Just list what you are reading right now, see what others are reading, and move on...


Like he said... moving on...

Here is what I am reading at the moment.

I Will Not Submit by Major Fowle
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/687/3856/1600/submit.0.jpg
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

happeningthang wrote:
The Language Instinct - Stephen Pinker (3rd read)


Thanks for your response, Happeningthang. What is it about Pinker that keeps bringing you back to him?
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cosmo



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Current-Events Forum: What are you reading right now...? Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Just list what you are reading right now, see what others are reading, and move on...

Like he said.

Not following proper procedure as stated in OP is a major fowl.
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, Big Bird:

I didn't realize he was a flamer. Yeah, let's keep it on reading, or Gopher.
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cosmo



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:
cosmo: Are we in agreement? Please feel free to chime in Gopher.

stevem, I take the risk of breaking radio silence to inform you that side spit in this thread is in violation of the terms of the OP.

To do anything and everything against the rules of this thread is a major fowl.
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Woland



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nassim Nicholas Taleb's Fooled by Randomness: The Hidden Role of Chance in Life and in the Market's.

Taleb is a philosopher of uncertainty, a trader, professor, and damn good writer. His point in this book is that we often mistake luck for skill because of our deterministic approach to experience, which leads us to ignore the role of chance in all spheres of life and overestimate our own knowledge.

He has a new book out on 'black swans' - extremely improbable events (e.g., 9/11) and their impact. I decided to read this one first to go in chronological order.

Martin Seligman's Learned Optimism: How to Change Your Mind and Change Your Life. Summarizes 30+ years of empirical research on the positive benefits of optimism. Taleb would find this book to be so much nonsense.

I think it's a good combo.


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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Current-Events Forum: What are you reading right now...? Reply with quote

cosmo wrote:

Not following proper procedure as stated in OP is a major fowl.


No cosmo, I am a major fowl. And you are simply foul.

Woland: Black swan chance theory: very interesting. A little time ago I tried to start a thread on it: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=85825&highlight=swan I'll read Taleb's book when I have some time.

Currently reading:

The Vegetarian Society
The Guardian
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cosmo



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Current-Events Forum: What are you reading right now...? Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
This thread simply asks what various Current-Events Forum contributors are reading at the moment.

Also, please do not criticize anyone for whatever they might write.

Just list what you are reading right now, see what others are reading, and move on...


Currently reading:

Feminists, Abortion and Sexuality in Britain - An Historical Perspective
Ann Farmer


"One of the most disturbing aspects of modern feminism is its intolerance of diversity of thought and opinion on one particular issue: abortion."
http://www.jesuit.ie/studies/articles/2001/010601.htm
"Sexual freedom has turned out to be, at best, meaningless, and at worst, slavery for many women."
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