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ontheway
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The interventionists have been destroying America's reputation for decades. It has been in a steady decline since 1948.
The interventionists have absolutely NO framework of analysis or logic to support their socailistic ideology. Interventionism is Socialism at its worst extreme. They quote each other's nonsense, but it's all illogical drivel.
What is happening today is a result of the takeover of US policy by this Kissingeresque lunatic fringe element. Every action, every war, every assassination attempt, every coup has come back to bite the US in the ass.
The interventionist policies do NOT WORK in theory and they have been proven a complete disaster in practice as well.
It's time to return to America's roots and Restore the Republic. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:43 am Post subject: |
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The Soviet Union was out to get the US.
The US is at war cause the other side wants to get the US and it has been.
Oh buy the way the Korean war was intervention. You work in Korea don't you?
But what is" non intervention"? No one defines it.
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fighting the cold war caused the Soviet Empire to fail
Not hitting the Taliban before 9-11 allowed 9-11 to happen.
Not grabing Khomeni and throwing him in a secret prision someone allowed him to come to power in Iran.
Allowing Bin Laden to go from the Sudan to Afghanistan allowed 9-11 to happen. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
The interventionists have been destroying America's reputation for decades. It has been in a steady decline since 1948.
The interventionists have absolutely NO framework of analysis or logic to support their socailistic ideology. Interventionism is Socialism at its worst extreme. They quote each other's nonsense, but it's all illogical drivel.
What is happening today is a result of the takeover of US policy by this Kissingeresque lunatic fringe element. Every action, every war, every assassination attempt, every coup has come back to bite the US in the ass.
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WW1, WW2, the Cold War...all left America in a good position. Indeed after WW2 America was the top dog and still remains so today. |
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wannago
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| This just in: Americans don't give a rat's ass what the British think of them |
Oh they're so blind.  The 'we don't care attitude' will be their downfall. |
You need to understand that this was aimed at Europe in general and the UK in particular. The days of the U.S. being Europe's bitch are over.
And what are you proposing? The whole world's going to gang up on the U.S. to "teach them a lesson"? Or do you see Iraq as that lesson? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| And what are you proposing...? |
If you are Chalmers Johnson you cross your fingers and pray that America goes bankrupt and then collapses beyond recovery. Perhaps some other power might even invade, occupy, and give the Great Satan a taste of its own medicine.
Then, presumably, "the rest of the world" (I will never get over this binary the left has created) will return to its naturally law-abiding, peace-loving state -- just as it did when, say, the Ottomans and the British collapsed after the First World War... |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| ontheway wrote: |
The interventionists have been destroying America's reputation for decades. It has been in a steady decline since 1948.
The interventionists have absolutely NO framework of analysis or logic to support their socailistic ideology. Interventionism is Socialism at its worst extreme. They quote each other's nonsense, but it's all illogical drivel.
What is happening today is a result of the takeover of US policy by this Kissingeresque lunatic fringe element. Every action, every war, every assassination attempt, every coup has come back to bite the US in the ass.
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WW1, WW2, the Cold War...all left America in a good position. Indeed after WW2 America was the top dog and still remains so today. |
The above shows a massive misunderstanding of the role of the US in the conflicts mentioned. The key difference, which you know, urby, being that the US was not the aggressor in either world war, and the Cold War is resulting in the crap we're dealing with now.
You know this. |
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EFLtrainer
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:50 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| blah, blah Chalmers blah, blah... |
Where the hell did you develop your complex for Chalmers Johnson? Let me say to you what I said to Joo: for chrissake, say something useful. |
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ontheway
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: |
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TheUrbanMyth wrote that WWI and WWII left the US in good standing which agrees with what I wrote. The decline set in after WWII.
The cold war with the USSR was not the cause of the decline. It was all the other nonsense: meddling in the affairs of other nations around the globe, and the war on drugs, which led to more interventionism, plus protectionism, mercantilism, and a variety of other socialistic causes. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
TheUrbanMyth wrote that WWI and WWII left the US in good standing which agrees with what I wrote. The decline set in after WWII.
The cold war with the USSR was not the cause of the decline. It was all the other nonsense: meddling in the affairs of other nations around the globe, and the war on drugs, which led to more interventionism, plus protectionism, mercantilism, and a variety of other socialistic causes. |
Ok the US was wrong in some cases but the US was correct to fight the cold war and it is correct in not accepting war by the Bathists , the Khomenists , and Al Qaeda/ Jihad international. |
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