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ajp



Joined: 09 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: Which agegroup to teach? Reply with quote

I did a search, but didn't find anything.. at the same time this seems like it'd be a common question, so sorry if I'm missing something.

I'm trying to decide which agegroup to teach... Kindergarten and elementary have the obvious benefits of daytime hours, leaving the evening hours free for teaching privates, going out, crying in the dark, etc.

At the same time, I feel like middle and high schoolers would be better since they'd at least have a little knowledge of english and the teaching itself would be more interesting. Although I've read some experiences with middle-schoolers on this board and it seems that they can be a pain in the ass to teach... High schoolers I gather are ok as long as they respect you.

So perhaps basically my question would be is teaching kindergarten and elementary much worse than higher age groups?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Which agegroup to teach? Reply with quote

ajp wrote:
I did a search, but didn't find anything.. at the same time this seems like it'd be a common question, so sorry if I'm missing something.

I'm trying to decide which agegroup to teach... Kindergarten and elementary have the obvious benefits of daytime hours, leaving the evening hours free for teaching privates, going out, crying in the dark, etc.

At the same time, I feel like middle and high schoolers would be better since they'd at least have a little knowledge of english and the teaching itself would be more interesting. Although I've read some experiences with middle-schoolers on this board and it seems that they can be a pain in the ass to teach... High schoolers I gather are ok as long as they respect you.

So perhaps basically my question would be is teaching kindergarten and elementary much worse than higher age groups?


How about the most obvious question to ask yourself:

What age range do you communicate with best?
Do you like little kids? Do you hate little kids? Do you know anything about kids?

Do a google search on "TPR" or "Task based learning" and ECE so you can get an understanding of what teaching little kids is all about.

Chalk and talk may work for BIG KIDS but will give you nothing but blank looks and an out of control classroom with little kids.

Forgive my "morality soapbox lecture" here but if your decision is based on parties/night life and teaching illegal privates then you may have the wrong idea of what teaching is about.

Stay home, work for a year, save your money and come here on a vacation and have fun instead of putting yourself through hell as a hakwon teacher.
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ajp



Joined: 09 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, thanks for the reply.

In North America I've worked with both kindergarten kids and university students, so I've had a chance to experience both ends of the spectrum. I communicate effectively with both.. But what I particularly enjoy about working with university students is that you can have genuine conversations throughout the learning process..

So what I'm wondering is how much do middle and high school students in hakwons in Korea differ from this? Can you get actual discussions going (even if it is just about a pop star or something), or is most of the time spent trying to get them to connect the word "sun" with a bright orange circle?
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MrSeoul



Joined: 15 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Which agegroup to teach? Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
ajp wrote:
I did a search, but didn't find anything.. at the same time this seems like it'd be a common question, so sorry if I'm missing something.

I'm trying to decide which agegroup to teach... Kindergarten and elementary have the obvious benefits of daytime hours, leaving the evening hours free for teaching privates, going out, crying in the dark, etc.

At the same time, I feel like middle and high schoolers would be better since they'd at least have a little knowledge of english and the teaching itself would be more interesting. Although I've read some experiences with middle-schoolers on this board and it seems that they can be a pain in the ass to teach... High schoolers I gather are ok as long as they respect you.

So perhaps basically my question would be is teaching kindergarten and elementary much worse than higher age groups?


How about the most obvious question to ask yourself:

What age range do you communicate with best?
Do you like little kids? Do you hate little kids? Do you know anything about kids?

Do a google search on "TPR" or "Task based learning" and ECE so you can get an understanding of what teaching little kids is all about.

Chalk and talk may work for BIG KIDS but will give you nothing but blank looks and an out of control classroom with little kids.

Forgive my "morality soapbox lecture" here but if your decision is based on parties/night life and teaching illegal privates then you may have the wrong idea of what teaching is about.

Stay home, work for a year, save your money and come here on a vacation and have fun instead of putting yourself through hell as a hakwon teacher.


Your advice is completely outrageous and stupid. Why don't you go home for a year, save your money then comeback and think about what you want to do with the rest of YOUR life?

Don't tell people to stay home because their not sure what age group to teach you idiot. Let her/him come to Korea if they damn well please. If you think you're helping Korean society by telling native speakers to stay home you're not.

Don't be an idiot.
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see more variation from one class to another of the same age than I do between age groups.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrSeoul- Did you remember to take your medication? Stop flaming people and stop advising posters to break Korean law.


OP- You are the only one who can answer that question. If you do have experience Rolling Eyes then you should already know your strengths/weaknesses and interests.
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ajp



Joined: 09 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogshed wrote:
I see more variation from one class to another of the same age than I do between age groups.


That's interesting, thanks.

wylies99 wrote:

OP- You are the only one who can answer that question. If you do have experience Rolling Eyes then you should already know your strengths/weaknesses and interests.


As I said, I have no experience working with high school and middle school students. That's why I'm asking people for their experiences.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean high schoolers in uni-tracked programmes are great, and would be unbelievably fabulous if they weren't so burnt out and exhusted all the time.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Which agegroup to teach? Reply with quote

MrSeoul wrote:
Your advice is completely outrageous and stupid. Why don't you go home for a year, save your money then comeback and think about what you want to do with the rest of YOUR life?

Don't tell people to stay home because their not sure what age group to teach you idiot. Let her/him come to Korea if they damn well please. If you think you're helping Korean society by telling native speakers to stay home you're not.

Don't be an idiot.


Did it take you time and effort to become functionally illiterate or do you come by it naturally?

Only a troll would take comments out of context and make stupid statements like this.

How long have you been a t