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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: The Bad Seed Reply with quote

Good lord. It's 5:31 and I'm at home with a drink already.

I swear I have one student that I honestly can't stand.

I was playing scattergories with 15 students. They were in 5 groups of 3 each. The Bad Seed, as I will call him for the rest of the story, is basically a 6th grade pain in the ass. He's bright but totally arrogant and a self-absorbed little brat. So anyway...he's in his group and he read out his team's answers. I go around and I get to the final team. That team used an answer that was the same as the Bad Seed's but in a different categories.

Basically, the Bad Seed's team used the answer "Nike shoes" for something blue and the last team used the answer "Nike shoes" for something that smells. I thought nothing of it but suddenly the Bad Seed suddenly starts accusing that team of cheating! I'm surprised by this but I ask him why and he starts basically piecing together this grand conspiracy to get a point in a game. ARRGGHHH! I hate that kid sometimes. So in the end, my co-teacher came in and I gave him the run down and he basically ripped that brat a new one for 25 minutes.

The Bad Seed ruined the game, ruined the class and I'm so tempted to stop playing games with this class. Probably an overreaction but I'm stuck with the Bad Seed by default, he's too smart for the class and he shouldn't be in it but I'm stuck with him Rolling Eyes

I'm sure in an hour, I won't care but does anyone else have to put up with a brat like this?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a 12-year-old boy ruining a game isn't bad enough try a 16-year-old girl who doesn't want to participate but just wants to blurt out the answers. Oh well, I guess it could be worse.

It's nice that it's the little things that really make you feel like a super-teacher somedays, but the downside to that is that it's the little things that really make you feel pissy, too.
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
If a 12-year-old boy ruining a game isn't bad enough try a 16-year-old girl who doesn't want to participate but just wants to blurt out the answers. Oh well, I guess it could be worse.

It's nice that it's the little things that really make you feel like a super-teacher somedays, but the downside to that is that it's the little things that really make you feel pissy, too.


Yeah true enough. I've had this brat for over a year but this kid just hasn't gotten the message. Other kids don't like him and he gets to pull shit like that because he's older than the other kids. If it was up to me, he wouldn't be in that class. That class is basically for remedial students, he's the only student who could string together an eloquent but bullshit theory like that. He's smart but highly unlikable....

I really wish that I wasn't on the bottom of the totem pole and forced to deal with him for over 2 and a half hours a week and as an added bonus I have to teach him EVERYDAY. I can't escape the crazy bastard! BACK TO MY DRINK! Laughing
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that guy



Joined: 29 Feb 2004
Location: long gone

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Oh well, I guess it could be worse.


Like this?

http://www.gaijinsmash.net/archives/requiem_for_a_legacy_part_2.phtml

From some guy that was in the JET program. You might find it vaguely familiar.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no such thing as cheating in Korea. Test, games or life in general. Cheating is Ok.

Tell that to your bad seed. When he's in uni he'll be using everyone elses answers and cheating like a trooper.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some kids should die.
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kingtout



Joined: 03 May 2007
Location: ROK...again...

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to go home if this bothers you.
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xtchr



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingtout wrote:
You need to go home if this bothers you.


That is a ridiculous response.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just tell him it's your game and you own the rules.

cbc
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rawiri



Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be an adult, kiss his little wangja ass outta your room and tell him to think about his actions.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Be an adult, kiss his little wangja ass outta your room and tell him to think about his actions." Shocked

I'm thinking you meant something else... Laughing
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alyallen wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
If a 12-year-old boy ruining a game isn't bad enough try a 16-year-old girl who doesn't want to participate but just wants to blurt out the answers. Oh well, I guess it could be worse.

It's nice that it's the little things that really make you feel like a super-teacher somedays, but the downside to that is that it's the little things that really make you feel pissy, too.


Yeah true enough. I've had this brat for over a year but this kid just hasn't gotten the message. Other kids don't like him and he gets to pull *beep* like that because he's older than the other kids. If it was up to me, he wouldn't be in that class. That class is basically for remedial students, he's the only student who could string together an eloquent but *beep* theory like that. He's smart but highly unlikable....

I really wish that I wasn't on the bottom of the totem pole and forced to deal with him for over 2 and a half hours a week and as an added bonus I have to teach him EVERYDAY. I can't escape the crazy *beep*! BACK TO MY DRINK! Laughing


Oh there's nothing worse than when the oldest kid is a spoiler like that. I'm so lucky that the MS students I see up to three hours a week are all so highly likeable. They're also mixed ages, but the grade 3s set such a great example for the younger ones.
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If his reading comprehension is pretty good, go down to the store and buy some books that are appropriate for him. Then have him read those books by himself in the back of class.

That would be a luxury of course.

I had "Bad Seed" too. His name was "Ji Sung".
couldn't speak english; had no interest; spoiled and completely misunderstood by his parents (sure he's smart, capable, kind compassionate); spoke nonstop; didn't care about anything; even his close friends were discarded for no real reason. The list could continue.

He was the reason I formed "The Ji Sung Postulate".
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that guy wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Oh well, I guess it could be worse.


Like this?

http://www.gaijinsmash.net/archives/requiem_for_a_legacy_part_2.phtml

From some guy that was in the JET program. You might find it vaguely familiar.


Thank goodness that doesn't sound remotely familiar. In almost two years at my school I've never had anyone try to ddong-chim me and students never throw out raunchy comments like that. The other day in a first grade MS class we were making a dialogue about a girl going shopping with grandpa. 'What are they going shopping for?' I asked. 'Panty!' one girl blurted out. That's about as naughty as my Korean students get.

Last year I actually had a chance to talk with a Japanese teacher who's working with the Japanese ministry of education in English curriculum development, and I was sure to let her know exactly what the Asian TEFL community thinks of the JET programme.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: The Bad Seed Reply with quote

Alyallen wrote:
Good lord. It's 5:31 and I'm at home with a drink already.

I swear I have one student that I honestly can't stand.

I was playing scattergories with 15 students. They were in 5 groups of 3 each. The Bad Seed, as I will call him for the rest of the story, is basically a 6th grade pain in the ass. He's bright but totally arrogant and a self-absorbed little brat. So anyway...he's in his group and he read out his team's answers. I go around and I get to the final team. That team used an answer that was the same as the Bad Seed's but in a different categories.

Basically, the Bad Seed's team used the answer "Nike shoes" for something blue and the last team used the answer "Nike shoes" for something that smells. I thought nothing of it but suddenly the Bad Seed suddenly starts accusing that team of cheating! I'm surprised by this but I ask him why and he starts basically piecing together this grand conspiracy to get a point in a game. ARRGGHHH! I hate that kid sometimes. So in the end, my co-teacher came in and I gave him the run down and he basically ripped that brat a new one for 25 minutes.

The Bad Seed ruined the game, ruined the class and I'm so tempted to stop playing games with this class. Probably an overreaction but I'm stuck with the Bad Seed by default, he's too smart for the class and he shouldn't be in it but I'm stuck with him Rolling Eyes

I'm sure in an hour, I won't care but does anyone else have to put up with a brat like this?


If he is bright why not use him as your assistant in the class when you play games. I am sure he would love to give the instructions and help monitor the game.

ilovebdt
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