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melstar
Joined: 20 Apr 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Hay there hasn't been any big mention of EVA airlines.
Me and my husband are going to be flying at the end of my 34th week of pregnancy from Incheon to New Zealand and I'm a bit of a nervous flyer.
Has anyone got any info to share about EVA? |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| Some people on here have complained a little about EVA, but in my experience, I thought they were great. Only crappy thing is the flight from Incheon to Taipei pretty much guarantees and overnight stay in Taipei unless there is a really late flight heading out of Taipei, wich may very well be the case for long-haul flights. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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I did eva a few months back. They are not the best though not the worst.
Pros were that they had screens on the chairs. The staff were polite enough I guess. The transfer from arrival to departure gates will be short for your trip.
Cons were getting served reasonably quickly, trying to get an alcoholic drink other than wine served at meal time was almost impossible for me. lack of reading material and no outstanding service like SIA.
Its not the best or the worst of the bunch, but considering that for a cheaper price or a little more added on, I could have gone with Singapore airlines (i didn't book the ticket for eva) I wont travel with them again. Unless I am doing it business class at minimum. |
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JD1982
Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| USAF space A flights are the best. |
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cosmo

Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| melstar wrote: |
Hay there hasn't been any big mention of EVA airlines.
Me and my husband are going to be flying at the end of my 34th week of pregnancy from Incheon to New Zealand and I'm a bit of a nervous flyer.
Has anyone got any info to share about EVA? |
http://www.airsafe.com/events/airlines/eva.htm
EVA Air has not had any passenger fatalities since it began service in 1991. |
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cosmo

Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| JD1982 wrote: |
| USAF space A flights are the best. |
How does that work? You fly space A on cargo flights, right? |
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cosmo

Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:39 am Post subject: |
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3 months and 4 weeks. Isnt that the same as 4 months?  |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:39 am Post subject: |
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I have only flown 4 differnet airlines that I can remember: Korean Air, Asiana, Air Canada, and Cathay.
Air Canada: I have not had a big problem with them, but I do feel their prices are a bit too high. I always had no problem, but they really need to improve in some areas. Others seem to encounter more problems.
Korean Air: I flew for just 1 hour to Jeju. It was okay, as good or bad as a 1 hour flight can be. The passengers were terrible, as usual. The flight attendants didn't do anything wrong that I saw, except maybe tolerating too much ajosshi bullshit.
Asiana: Very nice, but also short flights. A little expensive, but good.
Cathay: I'd have to say it's the best I have flown. A TV screen on the back of every seat, and stewardesses that leave me alone except when they're going to give me something. Sounds good to me.
Air Canada has a really good safety record. I consider that when choosing. |
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cosmo

Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Air Canada Fatal Events Since 1970
http://www.airsafe.com/events/airlines/aircan.htm
5 July 1970; Air Canada DC8-63; Toronto, Canada: The aircraft was approaching for a normal landing when its descent rate increased shortly before touchdown, possibly due to the premature deployment of the ground spoilers. The crew attempted to recover, and the number four engine struck the runway and broke away. The aircraft was able to climb after losing the engine, but after several explosions the number three engine and part of the right wing separated when the aircraft was at about 3,000 feet (910 meters). The aircraft subsequently crashed, killing all nine crew members and 100 passengers.
26 June 1978; Air Canada DC9-32; Toronto, Canada: The aircraft had a rejected takeoff after a tire burst. Tire debris was ingested into engine two, causing compressor stalls. Two of the 102 passengers were killed after the aircraft overran the runway.
3 June 1983; Air Canada DC9-32; Near Cincinnati, OH: The aircraft had an in flight cabin fire that led to an emergency landing. Of the 41 passengers, 23 were killed as a result of the fire and smoke.
23 July 1983; Air Canada 767; near Gimli, Manitoba: The aircraft ran out of fuel after the crew miscalculated the weight of fuel onboard. The aircraft made an emergency landing on an abandoned airfield. There were no serious injuries. This was not a fatal event as defined by AirSafe.com.
16 December 1997; Air Canada CRJ-100ER; Fredericton, Canada: The aircraft was on a scheduled domestic flight from Toronto to Fredericton. Visibility at the arrival airport was limited by heavy fog. After the crew disconnected the autopilot shortly before touchdown, they attempted to abort the landing. The aircraft stalled and crashed during the attempted go-around. The aircraft contacted the ground to the left of the runway, crossed the runway, became briefly airborne after striking a ditch to the right of the runway, and finally came to rest after striking some trees. The aircraft was destroyed, but none of the three crew or 39 passengers were killed. This was not a fatal event as defined by AirSafe.com. |
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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
| Air Canada has a really good safety record. I consider that when choosing. |
I will kill myself if I ever have to fly Air Canada again. Would that affect their safety record? |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:49 am Post subject: |
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Favorite domestic airline in America has been Spirit Airlines. It's a smaller airline but the prices are really good, checking in is a BREEZE and the crew is quite nice but the last flight was a horrid mess, a freak storm the night of the Super bowl grounded my flight for 2 hours and one of my bags was damaged...BUT I'd still fly with them.
Best international flight would have to be either Asiana or Singapore. It was a fantastic flight but sadly I'm not sure which airline did the great job An honorable mention to Philippine Air's Business class. Absolutely great service and they made a bad day fantastic (The back story being I was fired and I flew to the Philippines on Christmas day...I felt like a GODDESS on that flight!)
The worst international would have to be NWA. I've had 2 horrid problems with them. One was a crappy flight and the other problem was missing baggage that caused me to miss my elementary students' graduation. I finally got my bags back but one was missing a handle And then they were complete pricks about reimbursing me for it.
I have to give an dishonorable mention to Korean Air. It was like they couldn't try harder to ignore me on the flight. They would collect glasses or whatever and skip mine. I had to ring a stewardess to come get it and this happened more than once  |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Yes, not perfect, but overall pretty good, considering how many flights there are a day.
Are you saying this is worse than other airlines?
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Air Canada Fatal Events Since 1970
http://www.airsafe.com/events/airlines/aircan.htm
5 July 1970; Air Canada DC8-63; Toronto, Canada: The aircraft was approaching for a normal landing when its descent rate increased shortly before touchdown, possibly due to the premature deployment of the ground spoilers. The crew attempted to recover, and the number four engine struck the runway and broke away. The aircraft was able to climb after losing the engine, but after several explosions the number three engine and part of the right wing separated when the aircraft was at about 3,000 feet (910 meters). The aircraft subsequently crashed, killing all nine crew members and 100 passengers.
26 June 1978; Air Canada DC9-32; Toronto, Canada: The aircraft had a rejected takeoff after a tire burst. Tire debris was ingested into engine two, causing compressor stalls. Two of the 102 passengers were killed after the aircraft overran the runway.
3 June 1983; Air Canada DC9-32; Near Cincinnati, OH: The aircraft had an in flight cabin fire that led to an emergency landing. Of the 41 passengers, 23 were killed as a result of the fire and smoke.
23 July 1983; Air Canada 767; near Gimli, Manitoba: The aircraft ran out of fuel after the crew miscalculated the weight of fuel onboard. The aircraft made an emergency landing on an abandoned airfield. There were no serious injuries. This was not a fatal event as defined by AirSafe.com.
16 December 1997; Air Canada CRJ-100ER; Fredericton, Canada: The aircraft was on a scheduled domestic flight from Toronto to Fredericton. Visibility at the arrival airport was limited by heavy fog. After the crew disconnected the autopilot shortly before touchdown, they attempted to abort the landing. The aircraft stalled and crashed during the attempted go-around. The aircraft contacted the ground to the left of the runway, crossed the runway, became briefly airborne after striking a ditch to the right of the runway, and finally came to rest after striking some trees. The aircraft was destroyed, but none of the three crew or 39 passengers were killed. This was not a fatal event as defined by AirSafe.com. |
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pastis

Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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According to this data (http://www.planecrashinfo.com/rates.htm), China Airlines is ranked last (87th) out of 87 int'l airlines for safety (behind Cubana and Iran Air at 86th and 85th respectively). Korean Air is ranked 80th, and surprisingly Singapore Air is ranked all the way back at 78th... All Nippon Airways and JAL top the safety list in Asia (at 13th and 19th respectively).
This data gives a kind of incomplete and simplistic representation though (going just by 'fatal events', including those that were beyond anyone's control, and how many people were killed). Here's the disclaimer:
"The accident rates below are based on only three basic parameters. The number of flights, the number of fatal accidents and the fatality rate of those accidents". |
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ThePoet
Joined: 15 May 2004 Location: No longer in Korea - just lurking here
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Ive seen a few people mention China Airlines...is that the same as China Eastern Airlines? I'll be on one of their flights in a few days...I am going from Dagu to Shanghai to Canada to avoid Incheon and Air Canada, Korean Air, and EVA Airlines.
About EVA airlines...I've got a funny story...
EVA Airlines started a flight service from Taiwan to Japan that was a themed "Hello Kitty" flight...they even painted the interior with hello kitty stuff and the outside of the plane had Hello Kitty characters painted on the outside. Some genius who developed the scheme for character placement, put two "Hello Kitty" monkeys on the fuselage above the wings...anyone old enough to remember (or see in re-runs) the twilight zone from the 60's in which William Shatner in his first big break keeps seeing monkeys on the wings that are ripping the plane apart. It was re-done in the Twilight Zone Movie.
So when I saw monkeys on th wings I went "Uh---oh....." and someone else must have said the same thing...as the character placement has changed, and I think there are no more monkeys....at least painted on the fuselage.
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