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vanland · Joined: 27 Feb 2007

In light of recent references to roid rage and as someone who used to lift weights for a long time, I was wondering, is it possible to actually ever look like this without steriods. I personally don't think its possible, but I could be wrong. After 1 year of working out I felt that I had good results, then I bumped into a guy from school who had worked out the same amount as me, but with steriods. He was HUGE! I was offered links to steriods, but I just heard too many bad things, from poor health to 'shrinkage'.
I wouldn't touch them. The early deaths of WWE athletes is a huge turn off in itself.

Anyway, is it possible to get so big, like the guys below?

The guy I knew won competitions, but i never really saw him again, so I don't know his fate.
Has anyone known people who used them and saw the negative results?
Any stories to share?

SeoulFinn · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Location: 1h from Seoul

You can become big without roids, but not everybody can do it. It'll take many years of hard work, "custom made" exercise/lifting program and a very strict diet. But even more important is genetics. If your body type is naturally skinny (ectomorph) or chubby (endomorph) you won't look like one of those guys no matter how many years you lift weights. Sure, you'll become stronger, but you won't look like them.

A friend of mine, skinny rock musician, weighted 65 Kg when he started to go to the gym: 65 Kg for a guy with a height 185 cm is too low. Anyway, after 6 years of lifting - out of which 3 with roids - he weighted 100 Kg. Medical problems (that I am aware of):

- restless legs syndrome
- constantly painful joints
- back problems
- erectile dysfunction
- going "naturally" bald at 30
- heart burns, irregular heartbeat

Was it worth it? I don't know.

Alyallen · Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject:

The only guy in the WWE that I can believe is as strong as he is without steroids is Mark Henry. He's competed in the Olympics and and he was pretty big then and pretty much stayed the same.

http://weightliftingexchange.com/we1692.html

He is quite frankly a genetic freak who I doubt has any need to use steroids...but that's just my opinion.

Hollywoodaction · Joined: 02 Jul 2004

It's possible to be big without anabolic steroids or HGH...but you have to be patient. It took me 15 years to put on 60 pounds on my frame, but these are gains that stay. Add a few inches on my frame and I'd probably weigh about the same as your steroid taking friend.

The most important thing to remember is to eat well (plenty of protein) and give your muscles enough time to rest (don't train a muscle group more than once or twice in a week...but that varies from person to person). Also, make sure you train all your muscle groups. You'll look and feel better and make more gains: you can't have big arms if you train your biceps but not your triceps (and don't forget to also train your forearms, which will help you lift heavier when you train the rest of your arms and will help you develop a grip that strong enough to lift or pull enough to develop your back).

PS. Training natural/with steroid anabolic steroids/with HGH will produce very different appearances. Just compare natural bodybuilders (big but still athletic-looking) with the IFBB pros of the 70's (added bulk from taking steroids) and the HGH-taking pros of today (they've become caricatures of themselves).

Troll_Bait · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:22 am Post subject:

One guy in the WWE who can bulk up naturally is John Cena. This is one reason why he's being pushed as champ, despite the fact that he gets boo-ed out of arenas all over the country; he'll never get busted for steroids. Another guy was the now-retired Lance Storm.
I think that Chris Masters stopped using steroids, because last year, he underwent a dramatic weight loss. He still looks good, though.

VanIslander · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:39 am Post subject:

In 1988 I was surrounded by a room full of fellow Canadians naive enough to think Ben Johnson was steroid-free when he stepped up to the line at the Seoul Olympics.

"He is OBVIOUSLY on steroids," I said. "You are just jealous," they said. I knew he was getting injections. Anyone using their brain to think about it could have seen that. No cynicism needed. All you have to do is look at every fast runner in the history of the world and you see that the musculature is radically different than Johnson's. He had muscles you could possibly have without steroids if one bulked up weightwise with some sacrifice of definition and flexibility. But for one of the fastest guys in the world to look like that? I couldn't believe how gullible my countrymen were. It was funny to see how upset and outraged they became when the obvious was confirmed by urine tests.

Guri Guy · Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island

Steroids are bad news. They will permanently screw you up and eventually kill you with prolonged use. They are the proverbial quick fix or easy way out.

If you have good genetics, eat clean, supplement correctly and work your butt off at the gym you can approach the physiques of those guys after many years of hard work. Most people don't have those genetics though, myself included.

The natural bodybuilders are the ones that I admire. Steroids are cheating and extremely dangerous. More athletic and they look better I think.

Alyallen · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:32 am Post subject:

vanland · Joined: 27 Feb 2007

I once saw an advertisement for a pay tv show. The show was "The Man Whose Arms Exploded" (something like that). The guy just kept taking steriods (or other substances - I didn't see it yet) all the time. I found these links for it on youtube.

There are 4 parts. This is the link to the first part and parts 2-4 are in the column to the right. I asume that is all there is to the show, but I could be worng.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pU3E8DuLZw&mode=related&search=

This is the guy in the documentary.

Any of your girls find that attractive????? Razz

vanland · Joined: 27 Feb 2007

cangel · Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: Jeonju, S. Korea

What about this guy... FREAK!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yATmID0cCP8

Alyallen · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:43 am Post subject:

Dan The Chainsawman · Joined: 05 May 2005

The comments on the above posted video are priceless. True gems of the educational elite are most likely giving their all to produce those masterpieces.

Samantha · Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Location: Jinan-dong Hwaseong

traxxe · Joined: 21 Feb 2007

There are many different types of steroids out there.

Those who take the ones that bulk you up, yes... you swell and will be a lot bigger than if you didn't. There are also weight cutting/toning roids too. Like Clebuterol. Decca is a decent all around steroid and one of the common ones.

Anyway....

It is not your *beep* that shrinks with steroid usage. That is not true, it is the scrotum. Actually, I guess that would just make your twig look bigger if the berries were smaller.

Heart issues are for prolonged use and there is a cardiovascular strain from taking anabolics. In healthy doses testosterone is even an effective birth control for men. Look it up if you don't believe me. High elevated levels of testosterone is like a woman's birth control.

I've not been around the environment for a while. Human Growth Hormone I could not comment on. I'm not sure how available steroids are in Korea, but if you look fine now don't bother. They are expensive and once off the juice... the juice will leave you... that's how many of my peers ended up with prolonged use of them.

If roids here are available I'd be surprised if they were not twice as expensive as in the States. And that would be a huge cost. Even though China is where the States gets most of its juice these days, go fig.