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buffygrrl1



Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: public school application process is longer? Reply with quote

hey i just got sent the packet for the public school i'm considering and theres so many things they ask for. Is the private school application process easier?
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: public school application process is longer? Reply with quote

buffygrrl1 wrote:
hey i just got sent the packet for the public school i'm considering and theres so many things they ask for. Is the private school application process easier?


private school as in an academy.. there isnt one..
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SeoulShakin



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason the public school application is longer, is because they actually have some standards, whereas hogwans (private language academies) just want you to be breathing.

Yes, the public school application process is longer, but in my opinion well worth it. Having worked in both, a public school is much more secure as far as getting paychecks, health insurance, pension etc. Plus you get more vacation. My opinion though.
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Soccerstar



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: Kyungsangnamdo

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:17 am    Post subject: A bit of help Reply with quote

Seoulshakin is right. My wife worked for a hogwon before, and we've talked with lots of people who've come over from a hogwon to public schools. It is a bit more paperwork, but a year is a fairly long time so it is well worth to be at a good public school.
A few differences between a public school and many hogwons (though not all of them):
better pay: we are each making 2.5/month
more vacation: 35 days/year
prompt cash: airfare refund, starting bonus, salary, travel allowance, etc.
morning hours: 9:00-4:30 25 classes/week

On the other hand, hogwons do offer:
Instant friendships with fellow foreign co-workers
Evening hours so your day is free to sleep, study, or whatever.
sometimes shorter on-the-job hours.
Smaller class sizes


Some of the things public schools require (police check, physical, etc.) are not really necessary to get before coming.
If you pm me I could get you into a public school near Busan pretty quick as they have three spots open.
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Re: public school application process is longer? Reply with quote

buffygrrl1 wrote:
hey i just got sent the packet for the public school i'm considering and theres so many things they ask for. Is the private school application process easier?


Yes, there's a lot to fill out, but just try to do one thing per day. In a week you'll be done and have everything in the mail. It's worth it, trust me.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a different question about public schools. Is it too late to apply for one in Seoul?

Because of my hobby/passion of swing dancing (that I refuse to give up!) I am only looking for something in Seoul. I couldn't imagine not being able to dance at least once a week, and Seoul is the only city in Korea with a swing dance scene. Originally I was looking for a hagwon, but now I think I may be better off at a public school.

SMOE says that their deadline is in May to apply. If anyone knows whether I am really too late or not, or has suggestions, I'd like to know!
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gyopogirlfromtexas



Joined: 21 Apr 2007
Location: Austin,Texas

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.5? I thought the base salary was 1.9 for public schools. I guess you guys are experienced with certificates? Is 2.0 an ok deal for a public school contract? From around 10am to 4pm?
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davehere22



Joined: 06 Jun 2007
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2m is what i was offered for public school teaching in incheon. i have no experience.

My application was quick and easy. Only sent my photo cv and the rest to the recruiter, had an interview with her, and then an interview with another recruiter. I was told about 20 minutes later I have the job.

Now i have to send my degree, transcripts, criminal record, 2 passport photos, copy of passport to Korea for the visa process.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

littlelisa wrote:
I have a different question about public schools. Is it too late to apply for one in Seoul?

Because of my hobby/passion of swing dancing (that I refuse to give up!) I am only looking for something in Seoul. I couldn't imagine not being able to dance at least once a week, and Seoul is the only city in Korea with a swing dance scene. Originally I was looking for a hagwon, but now I think I may be better off at a public school.

SMOE says that their deadline is in May to apply. If anyone knows whether I am really too late or not, or has suggestions, I'd like to know!


So get one in Bundang or one of the other satellite cities. They are all GEPIK and they will keep hiring until they fill about 400 positions at all 3 levels of school and you can still catch the bus into seoul after work.

There are LOTS of openings.
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gyopogirlfromtexas



Joined: 21 Apr 2007
Location: Austin,Texas

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: A bit of help Reply with quote

Soccerstar wrote:

prompt cash: airfare refund, starting bonus, salary, travel allowance, etc.
morning hours: 9:00-4:30 25 classes/week

Some of the things public schools require (police check, physical, etc.) are not really necessary to get before coming.
I want to skip those processes too. Because the police check takes a few weeks. Not that I have anything to hide. I've talked to some public schools, they all told me I'll have to get my own ticket and they'll reimburse me later. So, I might as well just come to Korea now; stay with relatives and be vacationing during that waiting period.

Has anyone ever had a prepaid one way ticket from public schools? Are they are always reimbursed later? So, if I apply for a public position and I'm already there, will they not reimburse me for coming too early?I don't know if I should wait or just come now. If I'm going to be repaid later, I really should come now.

I think I'd rather show them the diploma in person too, so I don't have to mail it to Korea or drive 4 hours to Houston, just so the Korean consulate there can see it. Rolling Eyes I am not happy at all about the diploma situation. I mean what are sealed and stamped transcripts for with security marks? There's ways to tell if it's real already. I opened one of mine and there's directions in what to look for. There's no way to duplicate the security seals and such anyway. I already have a visa, so I think I'll just be wasting time mailing it to them. Isn't the diploma only for the visa issuance?


Has any one of you guys printed the 21 GEPIK pages and emailed it to them? They told me to "email" it. I guess I'll have to mail the letters of recommendation, sealed transcript and diploma with the contracts then.
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a PS question, which, if it's ok, I'd rather ask here within a post rather than in a post of its own, which, for reasons of sensitivity, you may appreciate.

I've already received my criminal record check back from the Police, but regrettably, it highlights some convictions from my misspent youth, convictions which date back to about 1986, some 20-years ago, which ultimately culminated in a 3-week custodial sentence when I was 15. When applying for my police check, I was under the impression that it wouldn't highlight those offences committed as a juvenile. Alas, and unfortunately, it does. In addition, I have another, more recent although minor offence, which resulted in a criminal conviction (a fine, not custodial) for criminal damage ( I broke an ex's mobile phone after we broke up. She claimed damages and won) from 1997.

I'm due to send out my documents soon (next week or so) and was wandering if you think it'd be better to withhold sending my Police check until I'm actually in Korea. Like I said, with the one exception, the offences are 20+ years old, I've changed immeasurably since then, but I'm obviously worried that my past will come back to haunt me and ruin my plans, something which I'd rather not think about.

While this is obviously dishonest, I think that I'd be better placed to explain my history in person rather than be dismissed before I had a chance to defend my character.

What would you do?

Thanks.
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BS.Dos. wrote:

What would you do?


I'd work at a hogwan for a year and interview for a PS job in person...might have a better chance of getting a PS job then. There may be better advice out there, though.

Gyopogirl--

How long have you known you had to get this done? It only took about a week to get my criminal check. I've read other posts that said you can go straight to the state police station and they can print it out for you there. Also, I think it's standard operating procedure to mail your diploma or certified copy to the school. Lots of people on this board swear against mailing your original but if you plan to work at PS, chances are slim that you won't get it back.
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: question... Reply with quote

As to the original question, it is sad, but the situations which have occurred during the past couple of years have forced the public schools to become more wary of people coming into this country to teach English...The need of criminal background checks and other verifications is a direct result of those who decided to take advantage of the system by having false documents and carrying criminal histories with them when they came to this country...99.9% of the people entering the country have wonderful lives and are simply looking for an opportunity to travel and have fun living and working in a different country...The hagwons will hire with less examination, but the whole hiring system is undergoing change as a proactive way of protecting the people of South Korea...It takes longer for people to go through the process, but it may well be more of a benefit than a harm...
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: A bit of help Reply with quote

[quote="gyopogirlfromtexas"] I want to skip those processes too. Because the police check takes a few weeks. Not that I have anything to hide. quote]

Try to find the website for your county police. I got my background/police check back in 5 minutes and it only costs $10
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quidgimo



Joined: 25 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject: Criminal Records Reply with quote

"I want to skip those processes too. Because the police check takes a few weeks."

I got my criminal record checks online instantly, through my state patrol. Maybe other states aren't as high tech, but if you need background checks, SMOE told me that the instant online ones are fine. It only cost me $10.00[/quote]
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