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Homer · Guest

Here we go (old news but hey)

crusher_of_heads · Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject:

Those who hired the retards in question should be flogged and fined 40 million won.

spliff · Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

The article mentioned that they were retarded...where?

Homer · Guest

They are not retarded...they just willingly committed fraud and got caught. No sympathy for them anyway.

But the schools who hired them or immigration also should have checked the degrees more carefully, thereby eliminating this problem at the source.

Vancouver · Joined: 12 Dec 2006

i hope the media doesn't generalize on all foreigners

hellofaniceguy · Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: On your computer screen!

It appears that immigration is double checking everyones degree by contacting the university directly. They will process and issue the visa and while the person is working, rechecking is being done. It takes a month or so before they hear back from the university.
On another note, many universities will not release any info...degree or no degree unless the student has signed a release authorizing the university to release any info.
My university contacted me and I had to sign a release before they would give korean immigration the info they wanted.
So it appears that many more will be caught as time goes on.
I'd be willing to bet that thousands have fake degrees in korea and elsewhere.

Homer · Guest

Thanks for the information hellofanice guy.

That certainly sounds like a step in the right direction.

We actually had a teacher caught at our university recently. He was working through the unigwon and he had an incomplete degree which he managed to pass off as a complete. He was canned and deported.

Young FRANKenstein · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:51 am Post subject:

Guri Guy · Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Location: Bamboo Island

I think you know the answer to that Vancouver.

yingwenlaoshi · Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!

They're just needles in a huge haystack. Not really a problem in the big scope of things. Really.

Who cares? Not your job to. Let them deal with it.

Homer · Guest

Actually ying they are very much a problem (illegals) for legit teachers and for the teaching market....

whatever · Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

Wouldn't it be awesome if they were retarded?

yingwenlaoshi · Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!

shaunew · Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Calgary

There are 2 markets here for teachers. The legal way e-2, f-2-1 or f-4, f-5 ect. These teachers have the right working or res. visa to work and live here. Then their is the other market the illegal or black market. The tourist visa teachers or the fake degree e-2 that slip by. Each has it's ups and it's downs. The two run along side each other, but what a tourist visa teacher does for his or her job can not compare with the e-2 people. Mostly kindy and part time hogwon.

Now the e-2 to f-2-1, f-5 or differnt as well. I did not compete for jobs with e-2 people ( I have a f-2-1 visa) The jobs I get are out of reach for e-2 teachers. Just like on the most part tourist visa teachers can not work at public schools like e-2 visa teachers can.

As for earning power the e-2 visa teachers are at the bottom of the list. With income from 1.8 million won to maybe 3 million won.

The f-2-1 and f-5 visa holders are in the top earning position with incomes from 3 million won up 10 million won.

The few tourist visa teachers I know make pretty good money 3 million plus. But they have no secruity working like this Mind you alot more secure then working with a e-2 and fake degree.

Privateer · Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Location: Easy Street.

Maybe they'll get everyone to go show their degrees to immigration again to look good for the media.