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Ethnic Bias Seen in South Korea Teacher Hiring - on NPR.
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Harpeau



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: Ethnic Bias Seen in South Korea Teacher Hiring - on NPR. Reply with quote

Ethnic Bias Seen in South Korea Teacher Hiring

July 9, 2007 � As South Korea's economy grows, many students there are learning English. But Americans of every race who apply to teach in that country are discovering a troubling reality. Schools in South Korea often only hire white Americans.
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Racism is alive and well in the land of the Midnight Noise!!
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Re: Ethnic Bias Seen in South Korea Teacher Hiring - on NPR. Reply with quote

Harpeau wrote:
Ethnic Bias Seen in South Korea Teacher Hiring

July 9, 2007 � As South Korea's economy grows, many students there are learning English. But Americans of every race who apply to teach in that country are discovering a troubling reality. Schools in South Korea often only hire white Americans.
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Racism is alive and well in the land of the Midnight Noise!!


Wow, it's great NPR is all over this 10 year old story.

"This just in, Green Bay won the 1997 Super Bowl!"

But at the end of the day, any negative media attention on the hagwon industry from the USA is always good.
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stevemcgarrett



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mainstream American press always seems to be well behind the learning curve when it comes to anything in Asian life.

Next thing they'll be reporting that a generational divide exists. Rolling Eyes
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Julius



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 10 years the US might just realise that their troops are protecting a country that despises them.
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R. S. Refugee



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julius wrote:
In 10 years the US might just realise that their troops are protecting a country that despises them.


You mean, Iraq? Very Happy Laughing Very Happy
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R. S. Refugee



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:
The mainstream American press always seems to be well behind the learning curve when it comes to anything in Asian life.

Next thing they'll be reporting that a generational divide exists. Rolling Eyes



Well, now that every other Canadian college graduate for the past ten years has spent at least a couple of years in Korea paying off their college loans, a cutting edge outfit like National Pentagon Radio was bound to come up with a "scoop."

Regarding the unabashed racism to be found here, I saw an ad on WorkNPlay recently that started out, "If you're young and white, then you're alright,. . . "

I guess the finish should've been, "If you're old and/or black, you'd better step back. . ." Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Ethnic Bias Seen in South Korea Teacher Hiring - on NPR. Reply with quote

Harpeau wrote:
Ethnic Bias Seen in South Korea Teacher Hiring

July 9, 2007 � As South Korea's economy grows, many students there are learning English. But Americans of every race who apply to teach in that country are discovering a troubling reality. Schools in South Korea often only hire white Americans.
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Racism is alive and well in the land of the Midnight Noise!!


You couldn't supply a link?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=11826937
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twg



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R. S. Refugee wrote:
I guess the finish should've been, "If you're old and/or black, you'd better step back. . ."

James Brown made millions doing just that.

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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose you could call it a ten year old story. Or you could recognize that it's still a problem now and that's why the NPR did the story.
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VirginIslander



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be the Devil's Advocate.

One could argue that it has less to do with race and more to do with accent.

First, who would a parent rather have in a classroom? An American of Irish descent, a South African of Irish descent or an Irishman. Obviously, the former. I have been offered several privates because parents prefer my familiar Hollywood accent.

Likewise, blacks in America speak with a different accent than middle-class white Americans. For exampe, my adopted black brother--like all of our black friends--pronounce "th" as "f."

"Did you do your maf homeork?"

Perhaps that is why English speaking Caribbean citizens do not teach in Korea. How many parents want a Jamican to teach their child English, regardless if the former is of European, Asian or African blood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_Vernacular_English

Lastly, Koreans have a difficult time not associating race with language. A Korean should speak Korean, regardless of their place of birth. A white person should speak English, regardless of their place of birth (ask a Russian how often they get a "hello.") So, perhaps Koreans think Africans can't speak English as well because they are African.
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say "Good for NPR". However, many non-white teachers do teach with no problem in Korea. There is definitely prejudice out there, but I know someone who is of Asian descent and teaching with no problem, and another fellow who is from California who isn't white at all and might be a dark Hispanic or black (I am not sure) is teaching with no problem.
They need teachers and they will hire plenty of minorities. However, there is a serious problem out there when it comes to bigotry against foreigners including Caucasian teachers and it is just worse for the others... That's my take, at least.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is definitely prejudice out there, but I know someone who is of Asian descent and teaching with no problem, and another fellow who is from California who isn't white at all and might be a dark Hispanic or black (I am not sure) is teaching with no problem.


In Gwangju, the Seventh-Day Adventists run a hagwon, with a heavy contingent of African and African-American teachers. As far as I can tell, it maintains a good reputation and is quite popular, probably moreso than most hagwons. And it's popularity does not seem to be confined to SDAers.
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R. S. Refugee



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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There is definitely prejudice out there, but I know someone who is of Asian descent and teaching with no problem, and another fellow who is from California who isn't white at all and might be a dark Hispanic or black (I am not sure) is teaching with no problem.


In Gwangju, the Seventh-Day Adventists run a hagwon, with a heavy contingent of African and African-American teachers. As far as I can tell, it maintains a good reputation and is quite popular, probably moreso than most hagwons. And it's popularity does not seem to be confined to SDAers.


OK. Well, here is my true beliefs about this, OTOH (sometimes it just slips out in spite of my best intentions to obfuscate and keep my true perspectves obscured, don'tcha know.)

I belief that the most creative, humane, and inspired workers will come to the fore and make a positive mark in spite of debilitating prejudice and bigotry. It is in their nature to do so and to let their individual lights shine.

However, as a good socialist. I have a concern for the masses of people too who, in no way should be required to overcome mountains of prejudice and bigotry just in order to earn their daily bread. And it is for these unfortunate strivers that I speak and demand just treatment (for what that's worth) without regard to such irrelevant issues as race, age, or sex.

Certainly, I know African-Americans (well, at least one) who are suceeding at their Korean jobs in spite of the bigotry. Glad to hear that you know of several.
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darkhorse_NZ



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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There is definitely prejudice out there, but I know someone who is of Asian descent and teaching with no problem, and another fellow who is from California who isn't white at all and might be a dark Hispanic or black (I am not sure) is teaching with no problem.


In Gwangju, the Seventh-Day Adventists run a hagwon, with a heavy contingent of African and African-American teachers. As far as I can tell, it maintains a good reputation and is quite popular, probably moreso than most hagwons. And it's popularity does not seem to be confined to SDAers.


on the other hand, who is that intriguing beauty in your avatar?
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VirginIslander:

Your description of "all Black's accents" is far off the mark. To be blunt, it can only serve to perpetuate the ignorance which drives the "We can't hire Blacks!" attitude here. Not all Blacks in the US grow up in dialectal communties which display the features described in that link.

You are right, though, about how very many Koreans view language and race. Again, that is driven by their ignorance.
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