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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 3:33 am Post subject: |
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Yes, some professors do write a lot.
Professors Cheat to Maintain SCI Scores
A professor of engineering said it was common for there to be up to ten co-authors on a paper, most of whom have had nothing to do with it.
It has been ascertained that two professors of mechanical engineering at "A" University and materials at "B" University both identified as Lee organized a team with three other professors from different universities to have all their names placed as co-authors on any of their individual research papers being submitted to international academic journals to inflate their SCI.
A Professor Jeong at "C" University published some 20 international and 30 domestic papers during last year alone, an average of around one a week, while a professor Kang at "D" University aged more than 50, concluded a secret agreement with a newly appointed professor to have his name added to papers in exchange for hiring him as opposed to other candidates. Last year, Professor Han at "E" University who had failed to be promoted managed to do so after his name was appended to his student's paper.
http://www.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200204/200204251020.html
The Never Ending Corruption
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200212/200212170018.html
Low Marks Given for Corruption Fight
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200306/200306250009.html
Corruption scandals taint 7-month reign
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2003/10/11/200310110053.asp
Korea Slips to 50th in Anti-Corruption Ranks (October 7, 2003)
"The drop in the index shows that corruption cannot be solved through temporary measures, legislation of special laws, but must be tackled through consistent and long-term programs to rid corruptive practices in society and the public."
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200310/kt2003100717241410230.htm
Seoul National University hires its first foreign faculty
The officials said that the council of deans agreed to appoint Prof. Damien Anthony Mugavin, 55, an Australian native currently teaching at the National University of Singapore, to a position in the Department of Landscape Architecture.
Korea Herald
SNU Hires First Full-time Foreign Professor
http://www.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200105/200105270165.html
This story made big news two years ago. Why?
It only took until 2001 for Seoul National University to hire a full-time foreign professor. Foreign professors were not qualified before 2001, right?
Discrimination
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200212/200212250002.html
Tenure Protects Academic Freedom, Essential to Democratic Society
http://www.caut.ca/english/bulletin/2003_apr/president.asp
Academic Freedom and Tenure
Tenure is a means to certain ends; specifically: (1) freedom of teaching and research and of extramural activities, and (2) a sufficient degree of economic security to make the profession attractive to men and women of ability. Freedom and economic security, hence, tenure, are indispensable to the success of an institution in fulfilling its obligations to its students and to society.
Northwestern University adheres to the principles of the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) regarding the de facto grant of tenure. Tenure . . . is acquired de facto in the seventh year of a faculty member's full-time service in the tenure-accumulating ranks, unless the faculty member receives notice during the sixth year that the seventh year of employment will be "terminal." Tenure de facto is automatic. It is conferred without a tenure review solely by reason of the faculty member's appointment.
The U.S. Supreme Court in Perry v. Sindermann recognized that "[a] teacher . . . who has held his position for a number of years, might be able to show from the circumstances of this service--and from other relevant facts--that he has a legitimate claim of entitlement to job tenure." 408 U.S. 593, 602 (1972).
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Arthur Fonzerelli

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Location: Suwon
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Foreign professors tend to be treated as hired hands, without academic standing, and lacking the possibility of career advancement or tenure.They must submit to yearly contracts (compensated at a rate only 60 percent of their Korean peers) while walled off from the permanent Korean faculty who benefit from travel, research funding, sabbaticals, etc. Moreover, when hundreds of Korean scholars enjoy such perks at American and other foreign universities, something is obviously amiss.
According to the Samsung Group's chairman, Lee Kun-hee, to succeed globally, Korea must forgo the thought that Korea and being Korean is superior, and foreign specialists must be treated with respect.
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200206/14/200206142349223599900090109011.html |
You continually bring this up but continually fail to mention qualifications. Most foreigners working in Korean universities haven't reached the academic level required to be considered for tenue while Korean scholars working abroad have met the academic requirements needed to qualify for tenure in universities outside of Korea. |
Gord is right...QUALIFICATIONS, or the lack of is one reason why we are not treated like other university professors in Korea (tenure, payrate)...
Real Reality should get a PH'D in Applied Linguistics first... I'm sure conditions would improve for him... |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Seoul National University hires its first foreign faculty
The officials said that the council of deans agreed to appoint Prof. Damien Anthony Mugavin, 55, an Australian native currently teaching at the National University of Singapore, to a position in the Department of Landscape Architecture. (from Korea Herald)
SNU Hires First Full-time Foreign Professor
http://www.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200105/200105270165.html
Arthur Fonzerelli,
This story made big news two years ago. Why?
In 2001, Seoul National University hired a full-time foreign professor. Foreign professors were not qualified before 2001, right? Foreign professors received "QUALIFICATIONS" in 2001, right? Before 2001, all foreign professors were not qualified, right? How important are "QUALIFICATIONS" for foreign professors?
According to the Samsung Group's chairman, Lee Kun-hee, to succeed globally, Korea must forgo the thought that Korea and being Korean is superior, and foreign specialists must be treated with respect.
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200206/14/200206142349223599900090109011.html |
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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| To Bugs, and BTM, you've nailed it. This uni gig (I suppose that the one I'm at would be considered second-tier) is quite a satisfactory situation. Decent pay, not huge, decent hours, fine accommodation, and the vacation time is good enough. And my M.Ed. wouldn't get me through the uni door in my own country, but having paid the necessary hagwon dues, I'm happy enough to show up each day and deliver the goods. And while I'm reluctant to get personal on this board (I usually eschew the ones who do), Real Reality, you are clearly bitter and jaded, and in serious need of a vacation. No, it doesn't work here as it does back home. So suck it up, and get on with the mandate that you've agreed to. |
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Kwangjuchicken

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Arthur Fonzerelli wrote: |
| Gord wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
Foreign professors tend to be treated as hired hands, without academic standing, and lacking the possibility of career advancement or tenure.They must submit to yearly contracts (compensated at a rate only 60 percent of their Korean peers) while walled off from the permanent Korean faculty who benefit from travel, research funding, sabbaticals, etc. Moreover, when hundreds of Korean scholars enjoy such perks at American and other foreign universities, something is obviously amiss.
According to the Samsung Group's chairman, Lee Kun-hee, to succeed globally, Korea must forgo the thought that Korea and being Korean is superior, and foreign specialists must be treated with respect.
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200206/14/200206142349223599900090109011.html |
You continually bring this up but continually fail to mention qualifications. Most foreigners working in Korean universities haven't reached the academic level required to be considered for tenue while Korean scholars working abroad have met the academic requirements needed to qualify for tenure in universities outside of Korea. |
Gord is right...QUALIFICATIONS, or the lack of is one reason why we are not treated like other university professors in Korea (tenure, payrate)...
Real Reality should get a PH'D in Applied Linguistics first... I'm sure conditions would improve for him... |
That probably will not improve his conditions here in Korea. As I stated earlier in this thread, most Universities in Korea will NOT hire a PhD. Or else, as has happened to me twice, they will hire a PhD if you keep it a secret that you have one .
Of course my current University is an exception . They hired me, and did not require me to keep my PhD a secret. However, during the interview I was told that there was a possibility that my having a PhD would disqualify me But it did not. |
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TECO

Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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WTF?
No Ph.D = No Job?
Why? |
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kimcheeking Guest
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| TECO wrote: |
WTF?
No Ph.D = No Job?
Why? |
I think you misunderstood the post. It looks like having a PH.d would disqualify him from the job. i.e. strangely enough not having one would make him more qualified. |
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