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elliemk

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Sparkling Korea!
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:41 am Post subject: US Taxes while working in Korea |
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Well, one of the new job listings says this: Two-year local and U.S. tax exemption for American citizens
I thought US citizens were exempt from US taxes the whole time they're overseas.
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:57 am Post subject: |
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As a US citizen, you are obliged to file a return every year. By virue of living abroad, you get an automatic two montrh extension on filing, until June 15th. You may request a further extension until August 15th.
If you are out of the country for any 330 days of any 365 day period which at least partially includes the tax year you are filing for, you are eligible for a deduction of $80,000, pro-rated to the percentage of days out of 365 that you were out of the country in that 365 day period.
This year, for my 2006 tax return, my accountant filed that I was out of the US for 343 days in the period April 4, 2005 to April 3, 2006. She calculated 343 as 94% of 365, and my deduction as 94% of $80,000 - $75,200. Given an income considerably lower than that, my tax bill was once more zero. In fact, I'm getting a return of $30 because the federal government is giving all taxpayers a rebate of that amount from the federal telecommunications excise tax. I love my accountant. Worth every penny of the $140 I pay her for this.
You get this deduction every year you meet the requirement. It does not run out.
I am not a tax expert and my comments here cannot be taken as legal advice. Talk to your accountant. |
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elliemk

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: Sparkling Korea!
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:10 am Post subject: Thanks! |
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Sine qua non

Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:20 am Post subject: |
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I think what that refers to in the OP is a two year exemption from paying Korean taxes.
You still have to file a US return, but you also file a Form 2555 (or 2555-EZ) which is the foreign earned income exclusion. You fill out this form (in addition to the 1040, of course), and all of your wages from teaching here up to $82,400 are exempt from American taxes. This American exemption is going to continue indefinitely in the future, unless Congress decides to cancel it. It is not just a two year exemption.
During your first two years teaching here, you do not pay Korean taxes. However, from the third year on the Korean government begins taking taxes from your pay (something around 4% of your wages). You can file a tax return with the Korean authorities to request the return of this tax.
As the previous poster also mention, an American living overseas atomatically recieves a two month extension to file your taxes. Thus, while living overseas, your new tax deadline is now June 15th, annually. And, if you opt to file for the automatic extension request, you get two additional months to file your taxes (pushing back the due date to August 15th, if you file the request for an automatic extension).
However, be sure to review Publication 54 (available from www.irs.gov) to make sure that you officially qualify as an overseas resident for tax purposes. There are two tests, of which you must satisfy at least one: the Bona Fide Residence Test and the Physical Presence Test. Your first year working overseas can put you into a situation that you may not qualify as an overseas resident, depending on when you arrive here.
After two years working, you are additionally expected to file a tax return with the Korean tax authorities (i.e., you need to file two tax returns per year: one in the US and one in Korea). Check with cubanlord, I think, about this. This poster seems more informed about the Korean tax situation for international workers here. |
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mehamrick

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Sine qua non wrote: |
I think what that refers to in the OP is a two year exemption from paying Korean taxes.
You still have to file a US return, but you also file a Form 2555 (or 2555-EZ) which is the foreign earned income exclusion. You fill out this form (in addition to the 1040, of course), and all of your wages from teaching here up to $82,400 are exempt from American taxes. This American exemption is going to continue indefinitely in the future, unless Congress decides to cancel it. It is not just a two year exemption.
During your first two years teaching here, you do not pay Korean taxes. However, from the third year on the Korean government begins taking taxes from your pay (something around 4% of your wages). You can file a tax return with the Korean authorities to request the return of this tax.
As the previous poster also mention, an American living overseas atomatically recieves a two month extension to file your taxes. Thus, while living overseas, your new tax deadline is now June 15th, annually. And, if you opt to file for the automatic extension request, you get two additional months to file your taxes (pushing back the due date to August 15th, if you file the request for an automatic extension).
However, be sure to review Publication 54 (available from www.irs.gov) to make sure that you officially qualify as an overseas resident for tax purposes. There are two tests, of which you must satisfy at least one: the Bona Fide Residence Test and the Physical Presence Test. Your first year working overseas can put you into a situation that you may not qualify as an overseas resident, depending on when you arrive here.
After two years working, you are additionally expected to file a tax return with the Korean tax authorities (i.e., you need to file two tax returns per year: one in the US and one in Korea). Check with cubanlord, I think, about this. This poster seems more informed about the Korean tax situation for international workers here. |
Your only exempt from paying Korean taxes if you fill out the proper paperwork in the proper time of your arrival in Korea.. your supposed to submit all kinds of documents. big pain in the arse really.. |
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betty74
Joined: 12 May 2007 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Are hogwon employees exempt also? |
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mehamrick

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:12 am Post subject: |
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betty74 wrote: |
Are hogwon employees exempt also? |
sure if you fill out the right paperwork...or err if your director is actually paying taxes.. lol |
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betty74
Joined: 12 May 2007 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:14 am Post subject: |
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I thought it was only public school positions. Where do I get the paperwork? |
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mehamrick

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:18 am Post subject: |
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betty74 wrote: |
I thought it was only public school positions. Where do I get the paperwork? |
some of it comes from your home country and some of it here. I dont have the contract with the exact details in front of me.. might try searching through the korean tax website.. but what you get out of paying taxes in the states compared to what you have to pay here its really not worth it.. nor does it amount to that much money in the long run. just be sure you file your tax return here at the end of the year to get it back and all is pretty golden. |
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Tony_Balony

Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:35 am Post subject: |
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US citizens owe the SSA about $1600 each year in SS taxes. |
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Sine qua non

Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Do you know if a person can file a late Korean tax return? I haven't filed for this year because I was too busy (how's that for a lame excuse), but I've got some free time now and want to file if it would do any good. |
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markfwarren
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: for mehamrick |
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So if I understand correctly what you last posted Mehamrick, I can go ahead and pay taxes, and then next year when I file a return, I can get the money back?
-Mark |
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mehamrick

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: for mehamrick |
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markfwarren wrote: |
So if I understand correctly what you last posted Mehamrick, I can go ahead and pay taxes, and then next year when I file a return, I can get the money back?
-Mark |
Yes as long as your employer does everything right and is actually paying the tax office. Jump into one of the stickeys and follow the link to the tax page and read up on it. |
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