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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Teachers Have It Good! Reply with quote

I hung out with some filipino factory workers last weekend and got insight into how bad they are treated here. Teachers have it good compared to them. Most of them work 6 days a week 15 hours a day! Their sleeping quarters are shipping containers reconfigured to hold several people. Their pay ranges from 800,000 won to 1.7 depending on overtime and if the employer decides to pay them the overtime. Do the numbers and you will see they are basically slaves. It's a pity the philippine government has not done anything to bring dignity to their people aside from fattening their own pockets. Evil or Very Mad
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Songtan33



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: hi Reply with quote

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Tony_Balony



Joined: 12 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Things are bad because the Philippinos have way too many kids.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not really useful to compare the jobs of people from 1st world and 3rd world countries. The world is not a fair and equal place.

Also, English teachers should have a university degrees. I doubt those factory workers do.

I feel for them, and I would love to see those greedy factory owners being made to treat them well, but they are in Korea because they are getting better pay than they would at home. They have improved themselves.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't know our pain.

Filipinos will never know what it's like to be walking down the street with your hot Korean girlfriend and have some old woman glare at you. Oh the horrors, the horrors!
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talk to Pakistanis about their conditions. You'll find out that when Koreans call all white people Migook it's because they're trying to differentiate from those worthy of the real waygook treatment.
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paquebot



Joined: 20 Jun 2007
Location: Northern Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: Re: hi Reply with quote

Songtan33 wrote:
Their Government is not doing anything because they do not encourage them to leave in the first place.


Last year I came and read across several articles (scholarly articles, not newspaper articles) describing the networks and flow of labor from Third World to First World nations. A common theme within them was the claim that the Philippines and Sri Lanka actively encourage women to work overseas, typically through well-placed jingles. In doing so they send remittance payments back home that (are assumed to) help their home economy.

While this mostly applies to domestic workers, it does demonstrate that the government plays a role in encouraging people to leave in order to increase the number of remittance payments. I will admit that the articles were dated from 2-5 years ago, so there is always the possibility of social/political change since then ...

Edit: To flip it around I suppose it's possible to say that their government doesn't do anything to help because the workers left "of their own free will". It ignores the environment present in the Philippines or Sri Lanka to create such an out migration, but probably helps politicians get to sleep at night.
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: hi Reply with quote

paquebot wrote:
Songtan33 wrote:
Their Government is not doing anything because they do not encourage them to leave in the first place.


Last year I came and read across several articles (scholarly articles, not newspaper articles) describing the networks and flow of labor from Third World to First World nations. A common theme within them was the claim that the Philippines and Sri Lanka actively encourage women to work overseas, typically through well-placed jingles. In doing so they send remittance payments back home that (are assumed to) help their home economy.

While this mostly applies to domestic workers, it does demonstrate that the government plays a role in encouraging people to leave in order to increase the number of remittance payments. I will admit that the articles were dated from 2-5 years ago, so there is always the possibility of social/political change since then ...


The Philippines number one export is workers. I remember reading that they have the most citizens working overseas in the whole world or something like that...

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There are more than 10 million overseas Filipinos worldwide, about 11% of the total population of the Philippines.[1]

Each year, the Philippines sends out more than a million of its nationals to work abroad through its overseas employment program. Others leave to become permanent residents of their country of destination. Overseas Filipinos are typically known to be as doctors, accountants, IT professionals, engineers,[3] entertainers, teachers, nurses, military servicemen, students, bar girls, domestic helpers,[4] housekeepers,[4] and caregivers.

According to estimates by the Central Bank of the Philippines, overseas Filipinos are expected to send back $14.7 billion in remittances to their ancestral homeland in 2007, up from $14 billion in 2006.[5]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Filipino

Dang...you edited your post. In any event, overseas workers send A LOT of money back, so I can see why politicians aren't in a rush to stem the tide. Same thing happens in a number of Caribbean countries as well....
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony_Balony wrote:
Things are bad because the Philippinos have way too many kids.

Yeah, that's it in a nutshell ... Rolling Eyes
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
They don't know our pain.

Filipinos will never know what it's like to be walking down the street with your hot Korean girlfriend and have some old woman glare at you. Oh the horrors, the horrors!


Hey! You're undermining my pain; that woman gave me a really nastly glare. How dare you Evil or Very Mad


( Wink )
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Treefarmer



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and korea never allows foriegn workers to create a union

it would be nice if we showed a bit of solidarity with the 3rd world workers on this

it's kind of ironic that these people who come here from south asia with no education and rights probably speak english 100 times better than most of the spoiled koreans who have no responsibilities except passing exams till they are about 25
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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probably speak english 100 times better than most of the spoiled koreans


As a matter of fact, most speak more than 2 languages as well as some korean which they are required to learn before coming to korea to work.
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Tony_Balony



Joined: 12 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dang...you edited your post. In any event, overseas workers send A LOT of money back, so I can see why politicians aren't in a rush to stem the tide. Same thing happens in a number of Caribbean countries as well....


The Mexican workers in the US really don't send alot of money home. Its surprisingly little.
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vox



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Location: Jeollabukdo

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:
They don't know our pain.

Filipinos will never know what it's like to be walking down the street with your hot Korean girlfriend and have some old woman glare at you. Oh the horrors, the horrors!


Hey! You're undermining my pain; that woman gave me a really nastly glare. How dare you Evil or Very Mad


( Wink )


Thank you for leading us out of the dark thickets of your labyrinthine-like sarcasm with the smiley at the end. Before I got to see the winkie-smiley at the bottom of your post, I was so confused about your sincerity I had to have psychological counseling for bedwetting and I was going to call in a sick day for biting myself.

Then your smiley appeared, like the all-revealing divine light parting the heavens.

Thank God for smileys. Without them we'd just have to read into things.

Every frikkin' step of the way. Ay caramba
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VirginIslander



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, where do the terms "first, second, third world countries" come from?

Second, how does a country move from third to second and second to first?

Third, can you go from first to second or from first to third?
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