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KOREAN_MAN
Joined: 01 Oct 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:20 am Post subject: Is Korea a Developed Country? |
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Most Koreans I've met consider South Korea as a "developing nation." This has been bothering me somewhat. I tell them Korea is actually a developed country, but they all shake their heads when I tell them so.
Do you think Korea is developed? According to the IMF, World Bank, and CIA, Korea has about the same GDP as Canada. I really don't see a lot of differences either between Japan and Korea, standard-living-wise. |
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Paji eh Wong

Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Korea is a member of the OECD, which I believe is the definition of an economically developed country. Culturally, well .....
If you can't see the difference between Japan and Korea, I can't help you. |
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yesnoyesyesno

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:47 am Post subject: |
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nothing in (south) korea sugguests that it is a developing country of any kind. there's water, electricity, decent salaries, not to mention consumer electronics ahead of most countries in the world. where do people get this developing country idea, it could a hold over from back when it was a developing country. but the most interesting is when koreans are not only convinced but adamant that their country is a developing country. one way that korea may still be like a developing country is a lot of people's social attitudes and behaviour. you just don't make comments about people (whether they are fat, or a different ethnicity, or too old or young or not married, etc.). but i know plenty of people in canada and usa who make comments like that as well, plus from what i've seen in the news, racism in europe is out of countrol (skinhead attacks, race riots in france because of racism, hatred of non-europeans). so who's trying to blame koreans for "backwards" thinking?
it's an interesting subject, but regardless, south korea should be considered a completely first world nation and due to the low crime rates and generally civilized behaviour i would consider it a model first world nation |
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IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:16 am Post subject: |
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yesnoyesyesno wrote: |
nothing in (south) korea sugguests that it is a developing country of any kind. there's water, electricity, decent salaries, not to mention consumer electronics ahead of most countries in the world. where do people get this developing country idea, it could a hold over from back when it was a developing country. but the most interesting is when koreans are not only convinced but adamant that their country is a developing country. one way that korea may still be like a developing country is a lot of people's social attitudes and behaviour. you just don't make comments about people (whether they are fat, or a different ethnicity, or too old or young or not married, etc.). but i know plenty of people in canada and usa who make comments like that as well, plus from what i've seen in the news, racism in europe is out of countrol (skinhead attacks, race riots in france because of racism, hatred of non-europeans). so who's trying to blame koreans for "backwards" thinking?
it's an interesting subject, but regardless, south korea should be considered a completely first world nation and due to the low crime rates and generally civilized behaviour i would consider it a model first world nation |
Agreed. Its interesting to observe the sheer amount of whine going on here. Of course I couldn't (still can't) comment on it without being called a "newb" or ridiculed for the fact that I've only been here shy of two months.
But isn't two months enough time to guage such things like civility, open-mindedness, kindness, etc... the qualities that people complain so much about in Korea? It sure wouldn't take two months to realize that Bronx, NY was full of liars, con-artists, crackheads, thieves, and criminals.
A lot of the general backwardness that forumers complain about within Korea doesn't seem so much of a staple of Korea itself but the world in general. Sure, Koreans aren't very use to us and there are some hostile feelings towards foreigners; but rarely does this get translated into ridicule, violence or physical misconduct and when it does, it never goes beyond "mild slap on the wrist" type behaviour such as losing a couple bucks to a taxi or getting slightly ripped off.
I think someone from here in Korea could go to a large city abroad, say Toronto, Los Angeles, New York, et cetera.. and find more to complain about, justifiably (sparing general cultural clashes) than a Westerner would find coming here and living in Seoul. Sure, some things here are a little irksome, but is it worse back home? In most cases, yes. Definitely.
Crime is worse back home. People are less kind back home. There are worse living conditions back home. etc...
...and development. Well, Korea has all the infrastructure of a developed country, the standard of living is quite alright and there isn't that much by way of absolute poverty... What makes it not developed? The slums here are not nearly as bad as the US, and again, I stress the violence... The violence back home (US, Canada) is literally dozens of times worse than it is here.
Sure, foreigners get a bad rap... but how much of that do we make for ourselves, and how much of it mirrors similar situations happening now back home in different contexts (such as foreign doctors in Canada not being able to practice because their qualifications are seen as useless, and thus having to drive taxis). |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: |
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IMHO, Bangkok is more developed than Seoul and it's ascetically pleasing....whilst Seoul looks like a hodgepodge of square sterile buildings not many w/out grime in the edges and corners. |
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Poemer
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Location: Mullae
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:45 am Post subject: |
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South Korea is a developing country because the economy has not yet stabilized. No country is generally considered "developed" until the economy has settled at a sustainable rate of annual growth. Korea's economic growth has been fluctuating from between around 10-11% to 3% a year. No developed country's economy can typically make 10% gains a year. Until Korea's economy settles at a sustainable rate of growth, it will still be a developing country; a country that has not reached its plateau and still has a lot of room to grow and develop. |
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shaunew

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:06 am Post subject: |
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My wife tells me Koreans still want to be considered developing, because this way they do not have to give international aid or help others. Unlike Canada and America who give billions to poor nations. At one time Korea was on the recieving end of this. |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: |
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IncognitoHFX wrote: |
But isn't two months enough time to guage such things like civility, open-mindedness, kindness, etc... the qualities that people complain so much about in Korea? It sure wouldn't take two months to realize that Bronx, NY was full of liars, con-artists, crackheads, thieves, and criminals. |
WOW....And since you haven't lived in the Bronx this makes you sound like even more of a stupid schmuck.... |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: Re: Is Korea a Developed Country? |
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KOREAN_MAN wrote: |
Most Koreans I've met consider South Korea as a "developing nation." This has been bothering me somewhat. I tell them Korea is actually a developed country, but they all shake their heads when I tell them so.
Do you think Korea is developed? According to the IMF, World Bank, and CIA, Korea has about the same GDP as Canada. I really don't see a lot of differences either between Japan and Korea, standard-living-wise. |
Using overall GDP is not a good sign of development. That would make China one of the most developed countries in the world. Aside from that, Korea is a developed country. |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:29 am Post subject: |
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Also, I don't know why people always comment on Korea's low crime rate. Korea has a higher murder and manslaughter rate than the English speaking countries, except for the USA. |
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safeblad
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:49 am Post subject: |
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I was thinking of starting this thread actually as the question has been in my mind recently.
I think that Korea is a developing country
In Jeju there is a strange situation of having some four star hotels near the sea front, immediately next to and behind these hotels are lodgings which look like shanty towns.... SO...there is still a long way to go. Of-course its no Mexico city or anything like that (dont bite my head off i have never been to Mexico city )
Korea is clearly still a developing country in terms of attitude, backwards attitudes still prevail towards foreigners etc.... for all the reasons so often stated as to why Korea isnt the hub of Asia, the same reasons apply to why it isnt a developing country.
And there is the same reason which will always be there, it was mentioned on another thread of the same subject many months ago.... Developed countries have proper toilets , these backwards people are still installing new squat toilets for gawds sake.
IncognitoFX has been in Korea long enough, his opinions are just fine by me. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:09 am Post subject: |
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Both.
Developing in certain areas and developed in others.
The economic growth argument is pretty accurate...the fluctuations in growth are an indicator of a country still in rapid development. |
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Jizzo T. Clown

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Location: at my wit's end
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:20 am Post subject: |
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China=Developing
Korea=Developed
Japan/US=Wealthy |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:26 am Post subject: |
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Seoul is developed, but outside the city maybe less so. |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:32 am Post subject: |
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I'd say Korea is still developing, but the process is pretty close to being complete.
I hate hearing Koreans use " but we're a developing country" as an excuse for unsafe practices though. The economy has developed enough that things like building codes and fire safety should priorities in new developments. Incompetent doctors should be able to be sued for malpractice, and the people should be able to expect better of their cops than what they have.
Koreans deserve better than that, but that's just my two cents |
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