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Military People - Are they cool? (Split from Itaewon thread)
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funplanet



Joined: 20 Jun 2003
Location: The new Bucheon!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're getting testy, T&H...
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HardyandTiny



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

funplanet wrote:
you continue to drivel...do you need a bib? N&G are contracted out because, just as in any field, sometimes the supply does not meet the demand....depending on need some languages will close and others will open up...Korean is on the bottom of the list right now...believe it or not, Korean linguists are not the most sought after at the moment...the top languages tend to be Central Asian and Chinese...need a geography lesson as to why? despite the press spotlight on Korea, it just isn't as important as Pashtu, Persian, etc...


Thanks for the answer about UCLA

The reason why the jobs are contracted out in Korea is because the government has wasted millions of dollars mismanaging their employees and their needs.
You go on dreaming.
You don't get it.
When there's no final number to answer to money is wasted, and now we are paying double the cost for civilian contractors. DLI is a waste of money.
May as well teach civilians
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HardyandTiny



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maxxx_power wrote:
Some cakewalk, I was deployed to SE Asia immediately following DLI and spent quite some time ankle deep in muck being eaten by mosquitoes.

No matter how easy you claim it is to enter/pass DLI, you'll never really know. I can't figure out why people on this board are giving Hardy's comments so much attention when his/her knowledge is mere hearsay.

Yes they do provide a salary and all the other benefits of the military, but you also have the involuntary option of having your head blown off in some third world *beep* hole until the end of your enlistment.

I KNOW it is hard, I KNOW it is a good school, and I'm glad I went.


okay RAMBO
may as well just train civilians to be linguists.
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funplanet



Joined: 20 Jun 2003
Location: The new Bucheon!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not dreaming...besides I didn't say anything about government being frugal or wasteful...I agree, most of the time it is wasteful...but sometimes they do things right like DLI and a few others...

did someone step on your toes and hurt you? did you have a bad experience in the military? grow up and realize that you are simply wrong...there seems to be nothing but bitterness in your "voice"...a little hatred or perhaps blinded by your prejuidices????

My gf is a doctor of psychology...perhaps a little couch time...? on the house!!!
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gypsyfish



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardyandTiny wrote:
gypsyfish wrote:
HardyandTiny wrote:
Here's the point. It's not a great language school. It's a government sponsored learning institute and all of the students are given a deal. The deal is this: The government pays for everything while you're at the school, you receive a monthly paycheck of about 1600 dollars, a room to live in, all utilities paid for, clothes to wear and food to eat. Your only goal is to learn a foreign language. (example: six hours a day for nine months for the German language).
Think about that.
Is this a fantastic school? Or is this the easiest, most ideal setting ever given to people who would like to learn a foreign language?
If a government decides that they will flip the bill to make language learning easy, okay fine. But should I go around boasting about how great the school is? How could any student go wrong? l


This was my point: your first statement about the German course being 12 months, eight hours a day, was wrong. I don't know if three months and two hours a day is significant, but what is significant is that you have second hand knowledge that isn't necessarily right and seem to be presenting yourself as an expert. If you got this wrong, what else do you have wrong.

You're entitled to your opinion, but just because you have one, and keep repeating it, doesn't mean it's correct.

Tschuss!



You snipped a part of a larger post and then I responded to you by saying "this is my point", to make it clear to you that the idea was much larger than what you had snipped.
Do you get that?
Is this kindergarten?


Truely, you have a dizzying intellect.

I don't "get" it. I was pointing out that information you were presenting was factually wrong. Don't bother responding to this until you know what you are talking about.

Gute Nacht.
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Seoultrader



Joined: 18 Jun 2003
Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah

PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And to think sweet ole me started all this....heartwarming. Laughing
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think y'all can agree on the following:

1. One will become freaking good at a language if he/she goes to DLI
2. DLI has the largest array of languages of any institute in the world


As for it being a waste of money, I really don't think anyone in this forum has enough knowledge about the program to really say. Unless one of you has specific numbers, such as # of students studying each language, how much the DLI's budget is, etc. I think it is silly for any of us to make any claims on the financial sense of such an institute. Furthermore, given our military's presence all over the world, such an institute is necessary. Perhaps it could be reformed and changed. None of us on in this forum know, that's for sure.
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matthewwoodford



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Location, location, location.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardyandTiny wrote:
Is this a fantastic school? Or is this the easiest, most ideal setting ever given to people who would like to learn a foreign language?


Can't it be both? Got to hand it to the army. They don't f**k about. They want results and by the sound of it they get the fluent linguists they need.

HardyandTiny wrote:
If a government decides that they will flip the bill to make language learning easy, okay fine.


It's not a good idea to flip the bill. Flipping the bill can get you into trouble just about anywhere.

Wink

Matt
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HardyandTiny



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Socialism using the military as a disguise.
Thousands of civilian jobs created to support the undermanned military which supposedly has the best schools to get the job done.
And the money spent....wow, what a waste.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
Beckerson = Armchair assclown

Derrek= Internet slang for "Joke"
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must be Derreking!


Wink
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Emma Clare



Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Anseong, sung, song.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! I've been dating an MP for a few weeks now... and I have to say, that he is the nearest thing to a being a total gentleman that I've ever met. He could certainly show the guys back home (home being England) a thing or two about how to treat a lady! He's one of the ones who joined the army to serve and protect, rather than to go drinking and whoring. (Although he does have this rather alarming obssession with guns and toy tanks. Confused)
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:44 pm    Post subject: yea Reply with quote

To be honest, I have said bad things about GI's in the past, but I was probably having a bad day or I was drunk when I wrote it.

I have had all good experiences with GI's in Korea so far, except for one knob from Incheon, who frequents 'Goose Goose' there, he was a total bigot and he didn't belong at all.

I feel sorry for his wife. He married a Korean lady so I would have guessed he is a pretty open minded guy. But when talking to him, I found out exactly the opposite.

But anyways, GI's are fine.
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Arthur Fonzerelli



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zed wrote:
You must be Derreking!


Wink


I didn't get that derrek! Laughing
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Alias



Joined: 24 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any guys here ever date a girl in the US military?
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