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*wanderlust*
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 Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:46 am Post subject: Education Degree |
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Most contracts I have seen pay from 2.0 to 2.2 for those with an undergraduate degree. Could anyone tell me what the average salary is for those with an education degree as well as an undergraduate? Thanks in advance  |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| Basically, the same. |
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*wanderlust*
Joined: 06 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| Wow. That's a little sad. |
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Tony_Balony
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| Worse still, school owners sometimes shun real teachers as they tend to be "demanding". |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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| Worse still, school owners sometimes shun real teachers as they tend to be "demanding". |
At my first hogwon I was told that I "knew too much" about teaching and they wanted someone "who would sing rather than teach." |
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TOMODACHI-KID
Joined: 24 Apr 2007
Location: LAND OF THE RISING SUN: TAKASAGO-KATSUSHIKA
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*wanderlust"
Most contracts I have seen pay from 2.0 to 2.2 for those with an undergraduate degree. Could anyone tell me what the average salary is for those with an education degree as well as an undergraduate? Thanks in advance
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Ahoy! Don't expect high salaries working as an English teacher in Korea, especially as a foreigner...MAX 2.5, OR OVER, BUT VERY RARE, THE "OVER" PART...with the degrees you have, why would you want to teach in Korea...give yourself a chance and apply in your home state...If you do decide to teach in Korea, make sure you receive your Hepatitis shots, as well as being aware of TB--there is a high concentration of people with TB...When you are in a classroom full of coughing kids in a not so good, air, circulated room, then... 
And yes, the "System" in Korea is built on one's personality; that is, it's not so much how effecient, knowledgeable you are in your field, but the way in which your students will like you as a person. You can have all the degrees in the world, but if you don't mesh, well, see ya!
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Just sent you a PM so check your inbox |
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VirginIslander
Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Most contracts I have seen pay from 2.0 to 2.2 for those with an undergraduate degree. Could anyone tell me what the average salary is for those with an education degree as well as an undergraduate? Thanks in advance |
At my last school, there was a teacher with 4 years experience in Korea, a teacher with two years teaching experience, a teacher with a masters, a teacher with an education degree and one year experience, another teacher with about a decade of teaching experience, and a girl who used to work at airport.
Honestly, I'm trying to hire the former airport employee for January. She never complained, she never gave the Korean teachers a hard time for being ineffective, she adapted herself very well, she made class fun, she didnt rely strictly on textbooks, she assigned lots of interesting journals, she treated her bosses with respect and she didnt bore the kids to hell.
If you are going to work in a hogwon, sometimes its better that you havnt taught in a real classroom but have lots of experience working with children.
For example, I might hire someone who worked in summer camps and after school programs than someone who taught in a public school back home. Or take me, I dont have a teaching degree but I was raised in a family of nine and I have over thirty first cousins.
Of course, if I was hiring teachers for my school in the Caribbean, then yes, I would go for the candidates with degrees and experience. |
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koon_taung_daeng
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Location: south korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| whats with all these human resources posts about what their preferential employee should bee, beggars cant be choosers the demand is too high here, if you work for 2.2 your an idiot( unless the work hours are EXTREMELY low, just look on the job boards and pick one out.When everybody stops working for these low salaries then maybe the pay will go up. |
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SHANE02
Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Most contracts I have seen pay from 2.0 to 2.2 for those with an undergraduate degree. Could anyone tell me what the average salary is for those with an education degree as well as an undergraduate? Thanks in advance |
At my last school, there was a teacher with 4 years experience in Korea, a teacher with two years teaching experience, a teacher with a masters, a teacher with an education degree and one year experience, another teacher with about a decade of teaching experience, and a girl who used to work at airport.
Honestly, I'm trying to hire the former airport employee for January. She never complained, she never gave the Korean teachers a hard time for being ineffective, she adapted herself very well, she made class fun, she didnt rely strictly on textbooks, she assigned lots of interesting journals, she treated her bosses with respect and she didnt bore the kids to hell.
If you are going to work in a hogwon, sometimes its better that you havnt taught in a real classroom but have lots of experience working with children.
For example, I might hire someone who worked in summer camps and after school programs than someone who taught in a public school back home. Or take me, I dont have a teaching degree but I was raised in a family of nine and I have over thirty first cousins.
Of course, if I was hiring teachers for my school in the Caribbean, then yes, I would go for the candidates with degrees and experience. |
OP,Yes kissing ass and accepting BS teaching resouces and techniques will get you further than trying to be a real teacher in Korea, unless you avoid hakwons and public schools. Look at Int schools or private/emmersion schools instead. |
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trubadour
Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| VirginIslander wrote: |
Honestly, I'm trying to hire the former airport employee for January. She never complained, she never gave the Korean teachers a hard time for being ineffective, she adapted herself very well, she made class fun, she didnt rely strictly on textbooks, she assigned lots of interesting journals, she treated her bosses with respect and she didn't bore the kids to hell.
If you are going to work in a hogwon, sometimes its better that you havnt taught in a real classroom but have lots of experience working with children.
For example, I might hire someone who worked in summer camps and after school programs than someone who taught in a public school back home. Or take me, I dont have a teaching degree but I was raised in a family of nine and I have over thirty first cousins.
Of course, if I was hiring teachers for my school in the Caribbean, then yes, I would go for the candidates with degrees and experience. |
The thing about reliance on textbooks hurts!
That's nothing to do with how experienced you are or not.
Sometimes it's what you need to meet expectations, sometimes it's what you need to work up to. Textbooks provide the common ground for everyone to work on/towards. It depends on the students and the expectations. I have students who couldn't work out of the box and students who can't work in it. As far as I can say it's not really about experience or qualifactions but intelligence and resourcefulness. Qualifications and/or experience can help you meet the demands - especially experience.
I guess that's why you'd employ less qualified people over those who are more qualified - they are more resourceful, more sensitive, more interested aka more keyed up, more open.
But that is not a thing that is really dependent on years served or hoops jumped, is it? It's more about individuals, no? |
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