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US slipping in life expectancy rankings

 
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: US slipping in life expectancy rankings Reply with quote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070812/ap_on_he_me/life_expectancy_8

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US slipping in life expectancy rankings

Americans are living longer than ever, but not as long as people in 41 other countries.

For decades, the United States has been slipping in international rankings of life expectancy, as other countries improve health care, nutrition and lifestyles.

Countries that surpass the U.S. include Japan and most of Europe, as well as Jordan, Guam and the Cayman Islands.

"Something's wrong here when one of the richest countries in the world, the one that spends the most on health care, is not able to keep up with other countries," said Dr. Christopher Murray, head of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.

A baby born in the United States in 2004 will live an average of 77.9 years. That life expectancy ranks 42nd, down from 11th two decades earlier, according to international numbers provided by the Census Bureau and domestic numbers from the National Center for Health Statistics.

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I found these rankings at the CIA factbook:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html

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1 Andorra 83.52 2007 est.
2 Macau 82.27 2007 est.
3 Japan 82.02 2007 est.
4 San Marino 81.80 2007 est.
5 Singapore 81.80 2007 est.
6 Hong Kong 81.68 2007 est.
7 Sweden 80.63 2007 est.
8 Australia 80.62 2007 est.
9 Switzerland 80.62 2007 est.
10 France 80.59 2007 est.
11 Guernsey 80.53 2007 est.
12 Iceland 80.43 2007 est.
13 Canada 80.34 2007 est.
14 Cayman Islands 80.20 2007 est.
15 Italy 79.94 2007 est.
16 Gibraltar 79.93 2007 est.
17 Monaco 79.82 2007 est.
18 Liechtenstein 79.81 2007 est.
19 Spain 79.78 2007 est.
20 Norway 79.67 2007 est.
21 Israel 79.59 2007 est.
22 Jersey 79.51 2007 est.
23 Faroe Islands 79.49 2007 est.
24 Greece 79.38 2007 est.
25 Austria 79.21 2007 est.
26 Virgin Islands 79.20 2007 est.
27 Malta 79.15 2007 est.
28 Netherlands 79.11 2007 est.
29 Luxembourg 79.03 2007 est.
30 Montserrat 79.00 2007 est.
31 New Zealand 78.96 2007 est.
32 Germany 78.95 2007 est.
33 Belgium 78.92 2007 est.
34 Guam 78.76 2007 est.
35 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 78.76 2007 est.
36 European Union 78.70 2007 est.
37 United Kingdom 78.70 2007 est.
38 Finland 78.66 2007 est.
39 Isle of Man 78.64 2007 est.
40 Jordan 78.55 2007 est.
41 Puerto Rico 78.54 2007 est.
42 Bosnia and Herzegovina 78.17 2007 est.
43 Bermuda 78.13 2007 est.
44 Saint Helena 78.09 2007 est.
45 United States 78.00 2007 est.

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However, they ranked the U.S. 45th, not 42nd, so I'm a little confused. Perhaps it's the inclusion of entities like "the European Union," which isn't a single country.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Culprit: Lack of Health Care
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are also regional variations among the 50 states, as well as very strong racial differentiations in life expectancy.

Hawaii and Minnesota have the longest (around 80 years- very Asian and white state respectively), whereas Mississippi and Louisiana have the lowest (around 74 on average). LA and MS have the highest percentage of blacks, who tend to have much higher rates of diabetes, obesity and heart disease, as well as violence and AIDS.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sundubuman wrote:
There are also regional variations among the 50 states, as well as very strong racial differentiations in life expectancy.

Hawaii and Minnesota have the longest (around 80 years- very Asian and white state respectively), whereas Mississippi and Louisiana have the lowest (around 74 on average). LA and MS have the highest percentage of blacks, who tend to have much higher rates of diabetes, obesity and heart disease, as well as violence and AIDS.


and poverty
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One reason that we have a relatively poor infant mortality rate is the very high numer of babies born prematurely that we make great efforts to save. Poorer countries can't afford to try to save babies with such a low chance of making it and that naturally affects the statistics, though I assume the rankings in the OP are life expectancy after the age of 5.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another big factor is immigration. The US takes in millions of people each year, . . . more illegal than legal . . . from all parts of the world. Many, if not most, come from places where they did not receive good health care early in their lives and thus are predisposed against longevity.

I've read that if you isolate ethnic and socio-economic groups in America, you find that white Americans as a group would rank in the top five in terms of life expectancy if they were a nation unto themselves.

If Japan were to count in their figures the life expectancy of the hundreds of thousands of migrant workers who live in Japan pretty much as permanent residents, we would see its ranking drop; not as significantly as in the U.S. though because they just don't have as many migrant workers and they screen the ones who do come to work in their country, unlike America where they just walk across the border in whatever condition they happen to be in.


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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alias wrote:
Culprit: Lack of Health Care


not that simple. some of the countries above us have worse health care.

I think a bigger factor is diet. The majority of americans are overweight. That's a fact. If people were to improve their diet, I think the USA would rise in the rankings.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Focusing on the rich white population (or its equivalent) can be done in most countries. Similarly, in Canada, if the Native population was removed from the equation, the age would likely go up.

But I think discounting/counting different sectors of the population to jump up the years of life is just cherry-picking. After all, those people are a part of the population and do reflect, to some degree, the state of health of the various nations.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Citing immigration as a cause doesn't make sense. Canada, for one, has a similarly high rate of immigration to the US, yet has a higher ranking. It could be, though, because of differing admission policies and illegals from Mexico, that the effects and nature of immigration might differ between the two, but I'm not certain if this is the case.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obesity may be a reason, but again, citing Canada as an example, the lifestyle and eating habits, in my opinion, are similar to those of the US yet it has a much higher ranking.
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