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dogshed
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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 Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: Re: Kimchi, "famous all over the World" |
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| regicide wrote: |
I do not agree with that because Wal - Marts are in cities of around 10,000 or even less now. |
Actually Wal-Mart's started in small towns first before moving to the big cities.
This was how they were able to sneak up on Sears and K-mart, eventually forcing them to be the same company.
They probably should have started in small towns in Korea. |
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Damulgun
Joined: 11 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| jaganath69 wrote: |
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What do you know? You're just a dumb foreigner.
Whitey: Little Yun Mi, what's your English name?
Yun Mi: Helen
Whitey: How do you spell your name?
Yun Mi: H I R E N
Whitey: No, it's H E L E N
Yun Mi: But Miss Kim (who can't speak English) says it's H I R E N, she knows more about English than you do cos she's Korean.
Are you getting the picture! Sure they get taught a lot of junk, but it's junk taught by a Korean, so it must be true!
Whitey may say something that is correct, but because it's said by whitey, it's junk.
Leave it alone.
Let them believe, the water clock was invented by a Korean, the sky is bluer in Korea, and Korean is a "Scientific" language. (From Korean Text Books!) |
Let's believe the world is flat too because whitey once believed it so.  |
On the same note, do you guys still defer to China as the centre of the universe? |
Let's put it this way. You aren't the only superpowers in town. |
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Pak Yu Man
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| Yep...there is Japan and China. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Isn't this beating a dead horse? We all know the "Kimchi Sweeping the World" crap is just a load of propaganda. I had never heard of Kimchi before I came to Korea, and I'd venture to say almost everyone I know from back home is in the same boat. And these aren't country bumpkins, either. These are educated kids from a very decent sized city. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I think Koreans just often mix up the words famous and popular. Basically, whenver something is popular they say famous. Such as, Daegu apples are famous, Jeju oranges are famous, Chuncheon chicken is famous. None of these things are famous, they are just all popular. Kimchi is popular, it is not famous. |
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| GoldMember wrote: |
What do you know? You're just a dumb foreigner.
Whitey: Little Yun Mi, what's your English name?
Yun Mi: Helen
Whitey: How do you spell your name?
Yun Mi: H I R E N
Whitey: No, it's H E L E N
Yun Mi: But Miss Kim (who can't speak English) says it's H I R E N, she knows more about English than you do cos she's Korean.
Are you getting the picture! Sure they get taught a lot of junk, but it's junk taught by a Korean, so it must be true!
Whitey may say something that is correct, but because it's said by whitey, it's junk.
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Every once in a while a post is made that just leaps out as being so, completely, and utterly true! |
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| As for the OP, it's kinda like every entertainment show in Korea that leads off all Bi stories with the line "World Star Bi is....." What can you do but laugh and keep your fingers crossed that not every Korean is quite so stupid. |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: Kimchi, "famous all over the World" |
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| inseoul wrote: |
Anyway, pumping your kids heads full of untrue "facts" about your Country doesnt help anyone. |
oh yeah, as long as ur not pumping untrue facts about the US or Canada.
"yeah children! no prejudice exists in my home country!"
serious idiots. |
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Optimus Prime
Joined: 05 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
| I think Koreans just often mix up the words famous and popular. Basically, whenver something is popular they say famous. Such as, Daegu apples are famous, Jeju oranges are famous, Chuncheon chicken is famous. None of these things are famous, they are just all popular. Kimchi is popular, it is not famous. |
I agree. I wonder if it's a Korean dictionary mistake. I have several rather high-level English speaking K-friends who always use those words interchangibly. |
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billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: Re: Kimchi, "famous all over the World" |
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| inseoul wrote: |
An essay related to food brought this comment out froma fairly smart student of mine the other day: "Kimchi is famous all over the World".
I thought about it a for split second then had to disagree.
Pizza, Spaghetti, Sushi, Hamburgers......famous all over the World.
Many people may know what Kimchi is and even perhaps where it comes from (although Im not so sure about that either), but how many 5 star hotels around the globe would ever put it on their menus?
How many Cities/towns in the World would you be able to buy some, as compared with any of the above I mentioned.
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I think you're overthinking this and adding a bunch of unnecessary criteria. Whether 5 star hotels serve it has nothing to do with it. Even whether its available or not isn't necessarily important either. I've heard of stuff like blood pudding and haggis without ever having seen in in a store. I think she just means that many people from around the world have heard of kimchi. Saying "famous" is an awkward and gradiose way of putting it, but I don't think she's wrong. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Most kimchi isn't very good. In fact a lot is limp, tasteless crap. I like fresh kimchi that crunches a bit when you eat it. The kind that is lumped with tasty fresh red pepper sauce. Could be a perfect mixture of fish sauce and garlic. Don't know. Never made it.
Most kimchi I get from students during kimjang is really not that great. Kimchi that is not spicy at all is terrible as is kimchi that is over-spicy. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: Kimchi, "famous all over the World" |
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| just another day wrote: |
"yeah children! no prejudice exists in my home country!"
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People say this about the US/Canada? Wow, that's a new one. Thinks for enlightening me to how deluded my countrymen are. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| I had an ajjoshi student, who is normally very smart, tell me that the U.S. wants the hostages to die, so that world opinion will be mobilized against the Taliban. Yeah, because the Taliban are so beloved round the world. Sometimes the lack of sense in Koreans is frightening. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Kimchi, "famous all over the World" |
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| just another day wrote: |
| inseoul wrote: |
Anyway, pumping your kids heads full of untrue "facts" about your Country doesnt help anyone. |
oh yeah, as long as ur not pumping untrue facts about the US or Canada.
"yeah children! no prejudice exists in my home country!"
serious idiots. |
No, you are the idiot. The problem here is that discussion of bias and distortion inevitably ends in accusations of bigotry against those who raise them by the likes of you. You might care to take a look at the current affairs and off topic forums where people are usually openly critical of things going on at home. |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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OK, there are Korean restaurants in many larger American cities. Some Westerners do eat there, and are familiar with kimchi. Does this make kimchi famous around the world?
Depends on your definition of "famous." See the Korean definition of "camping."
To test how famous kimchi is, I checked a fairly extensive online recipe site:
http://allrecipes.com/Default.aspx
I did a search for kimchi and found this:
http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Korean-Kimchi-Jigeh-Stew/Detail.aspx
Apparently this is what some Korean college students eat so they don't have to eat greasy American food:
INGREDIENTS
6 cups water
3 cups napa cabbage Kim Chee, brine reserved
2 cups cubed fully cooked luncheon meat (e.g. Spam)
3 tablespoons chili powder
salt, to taste
ground black pepper, to taste
DIRECTIONS
In a large pot, stir together the water, kim chee, reserved kim chee brine, Spam, chili powder, salt and pepper. Cover the pot and bring to a boil over medium high heat. Simmer, for 20 minutes or until the kim chee cabbage is translucent and soft.
But then, many college students will eat anything, as long as it is cheap and quick.
Is this enough to qualify kimchi as "famous?"
I might add that I did a search for quotations including the word "kimchi" but did not find any. Anyone know of any poems in English on the subject of kimchi? |
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