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Based on your personal experience, which of the following is most accurate?

Western men date Korean women significantly more often

78%

[ 56 ]

Western men date Korean women slightly more often

[ 5 ]

Western men and women have the same rate of interracial relationships in Korea

[ 3 ]

Western women date Korean men slightly more often

[ 4 ]

Western women date Korean men significantly more often

[ 3 ]

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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject:

endo wrote:

periwinkle wrote:

Pligganease wrote:

Good lord...

Now here we go. Someone makes a comment that is extreme and personal, and others make comments about it. I said "That stings! Laughing

" as in "That was hurtful, but humorous."

Now, I've gone and given the girl anorexia? Well, I promise that if I ever see her out I'll buy her a *beep* Big Mac and shove it down her throat.

Wow, some of the comments I read on this site directed towards women are so incredibly vile. Such hatred~

Vile, yes. But it wasn't meant to be taken literally.

The men here constantly atteck each other or whatever, and nobody is concerned about their emotional welfare. So why the double standard for females?

This is total bollocks. You lot are too obsessed with my gender. Yes, I've got breasts. Big ones too. So what? If someone had made unkind remarks about Pligganese's photo, despite his non-female status, I would have found it equally inappropriate. Getting personal like that on anyone is just not cool and totally unnecessary. You can disagree and make your point without rubishing other people's appearances.

Edit: this is rather cheeky actually, this idea that I'm only sticking up for Blonde Becky because she is female. I've come out batting for guys far more than I have for girls, and sometimes batting for guys against girls. Men are human beings too, you know. Wink

Last edited by Big_Bird on Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:29 pm; edited 2 times in total

periwinkle

Joined: 08 Feb 2003

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject:

endo wrote:

periwinkle wrote:

Pligganease wrote:

Good lord...

Now here we go. Someone makes a comment that is extreme and personal, and others make comments about it. I said "That stings! Laughing

" as in "That was hurtful, but humorous."

Now, I've gone and given the girl anorexia? Well, I promise that if I ever see her out I'll buy her a *beep* Big Mac and shove it down her throat.

Wow, some of the comments I read on this site directed towards women are so incredibly vile. Such hatred~

IMO, I don't feel there is a double standard. I back up male posters, as well. I said something nice about JAD just the other day (har har, pun intended)...

SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:22 pm Post subject:

My Kwife hits me sometimes.

bejarano-korea

Joined: 13 Dec 2006

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject:

[quote="blondebecky"][quote="squat toilet"]

just another day wrote:

blondebecky wrote:

just another day wrote:

blondebecky wrote:

That's a low blow directed toward a lot of Western men - and it's not merited. I am personally acquainted with several WM/KF couples - most of the men, while perhaps not the handsomest guys, are all well educated and normal. Their girlfriends are, for the most part, attractive, educated and semi-fluent English speakers.

I think it's true that there are a lot of Western men in Korea who are enjoying far greater dating/sexual opportunities than they would back home. But I think that this is chiefly because Western women (I can say this because I am one) are a little bit more focussed on a man's physical appearance than their female Korean counterparts.

hmm maybe its because u know them... but yeah. i guess i just have seen the other side more than you have.... ?

well, at least i known quite a few western guys who complain that the only korean girls that would date them are 35+ divorcees or "weird girls".

i dunno, my gf thinks that a lot of these girls are "sluts" or have something wrong with them, especially the ones who specifically seek out foreign guys. thats what i hear from a lot of native koreans too. i dunno, while its not all, certainly there is enough so that i am suspectful of some posters.

Oh well, in that case your girlfriend sounds like a nasty piece of work! Why don't you stop trolling and *beep* about foreign devils with her - you've posted several hundred times over the past week, which speaks volumes for your social life.

Did any of those guys who directed a barrage of personal abuse and insults my way bother to read this post of mine...??? The other posts of mine which have precipitated so much self-righteous anger from nateium, endo, bejarano-korea and others were in response to posts by Western men claiming that Western women were "covered in more tattos than Royal Marines", "fat" etc, and that maybe if we took more care of ourselves we wouldn't be "losing out" to Korean women.

Please stop castigating Western women for sticking up for themselves. As I, and Big Bird in my defense (thankyou!) have said on several occasions, I NEVER made any attack on the looks of endo, bejerano-korea or nateium.

I'm surprised the mods have failed to do anything about this situation.

Get a grip of yourself Becky, since Joan Rivers career went down the toilet
we have all moved on from the blonde stereotype, why are you trying to ressurect it?

You made a stupid generalization:

Quote:

I think it's true that there are a lot of Western men in Korea who are enjoying far greater dating/sexual opportunities than they would back home. But I think that this is chiefly because Western women (I can say this because I am one) are a little bit more focussed on a man's physical appearance than their female Korean counterparts.

Topped off with one from peppermint

Quote:

I'm not slamming all western men here, by a long shot, but it's pretty obvious that Korean women don't view computer geeks and dungeons and dragons players the same way that their Western counterparts would.

With the underlying message that most western men are losers who can't get a western (white) woman and because of the Korean females lower standards, these geeks, losers and social retards are getting laid for once.

So I, as devils advocate, made a similar post about 'western women'

Quote:

Maybe, but could it be that some western men dislike loud, fat, belching, drunken, women with more tattoos than a Royal Marine wearing clothes 2 sizes too small who are basically not very appealing?

Now thats not every western woman by a long shot but it is fair number and maybe then, men who are dating Korean women are exercising a freedom of choice based on what they see and what they know.

Not that there isn't some truth to it, there are women like that like any friday night around Wigan would attest but it is a generalization which I'm loath to use, I know lots of 'western women' (I didn't even mention women in Korea, women on this board or even you) and they are nothing like this. See what happens when we use generalizations Becky? We all get upset and the reactions were predictable.

So you decide to up the ante.

Quote:

Much has been made on this forum, however, about the obesity, vulgarity (I think another poster mentioned burping!!) and general unattractiveness of Western women in general and expatriate women in Korea, in particular.

A fact little acknowledged on this forum however, is that a LOT of men in Korea are also obese, vulgar and generally physically unappealing. I�ve seen photos of a lot of men on this forum and the majority of them have done little to dispel this overall impression. A glance at the pictures of the women on this forum, however, tells a different story.

I�m sure personal comments will come flying now, but I will firstly say that I'm petite and slim � and I NEVER burp in company

It was crass and uncalled for, no you didn't mention any names but you didn't need to because you thought the majority of blokes who posted their photo were according to you were obese, vulgar and generally physically unappealing, you doubled up by then stating that with the way you look you were beyond reproach, daring us to criticize you. Now personally I don't give a fack what someone thinks of me, lots of women don't fancy me and life is too short. the one good thing about being my age is you gain perspective as peoples opinions lose power.

But don't come on here making yourself out to be some kind of victim. You are Australian and you know the score probably better anyone on this board about getting yourself involved in a faeces fight which you knew you were instigating. You got incoming fire and you got hit. it's your own bloody fault so stop whinging.

Bottom line is that the worst thing that was said about you was 'that you are no Jessica Biel' I don't know who she is but you probably aren't, get over it!

I'm retiring from this thread also.

nateium

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Location: Seoul

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:30 am Post subject:

blondebecky wrote:

so much self-righteous anger from nateium, endo, bejarano-korea and others

LOL

just another day

Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:10 am Post subject:

Atavistic wrote:

just another day wrote:

endo wrote:

I know your trying to stir up trouble because that's what you do here just another day. Really, that is sad for a grown man to be doing this.

i just remember that in America, black men and asian men were outlawed from marrying white women for over 100 years. well more than 100 for black men.

so i just find the entire topic rather ironic. *shrugs* we all want to improve out own situation of course. its natural to be selfish. thats about the only commonality there is.

YOU YOURSELF keep pointing out that KOREA doesn't want to give EASTERN EUROPEANS marriage visas. So KOREA is still backwards, whereas laws like this haven't existed for 33 YEARS!

yeah its the DEPARTMENT OF WOMEN who won't issue those marriage visas for eastern european and russian women. essentially that department sucks and needs to be overhauled. run by a bunch of crazy women. Hello??? there's no department of women in the US... what a bunch of maniac women.

just another day

Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:13 am Post subject:

Atavistic wrote:

Nonetheless, it took South Carolina until 1998 and Alabama until 2000 to officially remove defunct anti-miscegenation laws from their law books. In the respective referendums, 62% of voters in South Carolina and 59% of voters in Alabama voted to remove these laws.[9]

::

Look, dude, I know you aren't American, but the Supreme Court overrides state courts, so your arguement is BS and off by 33 years.

well, after having minorities for 10,000 years, they finally lifted miscegenation laws for American citizens. In Korea, these laws never existed, even tho Korea is relatively new with minorities with Korean citizenship (still very few). Either way, its the Department of Women that needs an overhaul.

just another day

Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 9:15 am Post subject:

endo wrote:

^ So why are you self interests intent on creating friction and tension on these boards.

What drives this self interest?

uh... i just state my views. i believed what i believed before i came here. im used to a diversity of viewpoints. so its not really on my side where i feel friction.

Atavistic

Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject:

just another day wrote:

well, after having minorities for 10,000 years, they finally lifted miscegenation laws for American citizens.

Since when is the US (as a COUNTRY, not as a slab of land) 10,000 years old?

just another day

Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:49 pm Post subject:

Atavistic wrote:

just another day wrote:

well, after having minorities for 10,000 years, they finally lifted miscegenation laws for American citizens.

Since when is the US (as a COUNTRY, not as a slab of land) 10,000 years old?

http://archaeology.about.com/od/indigenouspeoples/Indigenous_Peoples.htm

without stealing gunpowder from the Chinese that the Spanish brought, along with diseases that wiped out the majority of the native American population, North America would still have existed.

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200706/200706260010.html

Discovery of Ondol heating systems in Alaska.

just another day

Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject:

I realize that this lack of knowledge (or inability to digest it) may be a result of going to a university with a low ranked history program. My undergraduate was ranked in the top 2 in history in the United States. http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/Exhibits/nativeamericans/

squat toilet

Joined: 08 Mar 2005

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject:

Back to the main point of this thread. My PM box is overflowing with messages from eager brotha's wanting to run train on willing white women from this site. Tarps have been purchased and laid out in the Love Makin' Den (an empty dumpster out back). Now i just need some white women -- pm me if you're interested. I needs to get paid.

Draz

Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject:

blondebecky wrote:

The only reason why I use a photo as my avatar is to avoid some of the insults I�ve seen levelled at women in this forum � the favourite, of course being that they are �fat�, �tattooed� etc etc. When I referred to the �Are you hawt� thread I made a general comment that the women (NOT me) one this forum are generally very pretty, and suggested that, from the majority of the photos I�d seen, the men weren�t, in general, of the same level of attractiveness.

I didn't make it all the way through that thread but the men and women seemed to be equal in looks overall.

For me personally, I don't find casual dating enjoyable. It's stressful. Not sure how many other "Western" women teaching in foreign countries have this view but I'm not especially planning on dating anyone while I'm there. I'm going overseas because I'm bored, I've never been outside of North America, I can't afford to just travel without working and the money in Korea is very nice. I'm interested in long-term relationships only, and since I'll likely only be there for a couple years... which is not long term... no dating for me.

SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject:

You foreign devels come Korea too all time taking Korean girl so pure make all time with bad. I see you walking to holding hand with Korea purity is going away so I will stop you. I am report immigration officer all time see foreigner devels. You watch out! I watching you!

Atavistic

Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject:

just another day wrote:

I realize that this lack of knowledge (or inability to digest it) may be a result of going to a university with a low ranked history program. My undergraduate was ranked in the top 2 in history in the United States.

http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/Exhibits/nativeamericans/

Then they did a shit job. Also, your reading comp sucks. The US AS A COUNTRY has not existed for 10,000 years. Saying that is like saying North Korea AS A COUNTRY has existed for 10,000 years.

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