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Why can't I find a job in Seoul ??

 
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NoDolan



Joined: 29 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Why can't I find a job in Seoul ?? Reply with quote

Every job offer I receive is located way the hell out. Is it because I have no experience ? Some recruiters said that I can't have preferences because of my lack of experience.
Should I take one of these jobs, pay my dues, learn the ways and my way around Korea and if I stay another year be more selective ?
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, find another recruiter. Jobs in the country are harder to fill, so they are trying to convince you that is your only chance. That way they can get thier recruiting fee from the country hogwan. State that you want Seoul only and not to send you any other offers. If they do, tell them you will find another recruiter and do it. there are plenty of jobs in Seoul for newbs.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Why can't I find a job in Seoul ?? Reply with quote

NoDolan wrote:
Every job offer I receive is located way the hell out. Is it because I have no experience ? Some recruiters said that I can't have preferences because of my lack of experience.
Should I take one of these jobs, pay my dues, learn the ways and my way around Korea and if I stay another year be more selective ?


How far out is WAY OUT?

You are aware that it is faster to commute from some of the burbs to central Seoul than it is to cross the city.

For example, from the Seohyun station area of Bundang (by orange bus - 9401 for example) it only takes 20-30 minutes to get to Itaewon and 30-40 minutes to get to Jongno (subject to traffic of course).

It can easily take 40-80 minutes to get from Gangdong in eastern Seoul to anywhere you may want to be (like Sinchon).

Your priorities are a bit confused. You should focus more on getting a decent job in a reputable school and worry less about partying.

The extra taxi fare you may end up paying will be far less than the lost wages and benefits if you get a great location and a bad school.

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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're considered too old (like over 40...) it's much harder to find work in Seoul. Locations that may not be right in Seoul but which are on the subway line are just as good (and places not much further than an hour bus ride to Seoul aren't bad either...)
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NoDolan



Joined: 29 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice.
ttompatz is right. This city is actually closer to central Seoul than some districts in Seoul, especially the North. I am 36, and not so much of a party animal, but I like fine dinning and women and shopping. Hey, 30 minutes isn't so bad, besides I'm coming to work not play.

I am worried about the school. I can't find any info on it. There are no other foreign teachers there, and that's a concern. How can they get students without a native ???? But the offitel photos they sent were nice and the salary is ok for a newbie, 2.2 mil.....
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mountain goat



Joined: 18 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, my recruiter told me that I would be 30 minutes from seoul. Its more like travel 30 minutes and if you squint you can see seoul in the distance. Its more like 1 hour 30 mins, she lied to me Crying or Very sad .
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MarionG



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was offered two jobs in Seoul and I was 61 at the time... I'm not sure there's as much of an age problem as people think...
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Vlad Spinner



Joined: 09 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:31 am    Post subject: Never Too Old! Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
If you're considered too old (like over 40...) it's much harder to find work in Seoul. Locations that may not be right in Seoul but which are on the subway line are just as good (and places not much further than an hour bus ride to Seoul aren't bad either...)


Allow me, Rteacher, respectfully (of course!) to disagree.

I will be 40 next year and was less than a year ago offered a very nice job at a private secondary school right in the heart of Kangnam.

We have one other foreign teacher, more recently hired. He's over 60!

To be sure, many schools will note the age, judge you too old, and then move on to the next CV.

Others, however, may very well choose the older, more experienced candidate.

It all depends on the school!

Vlad
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder why they make a fuss about age. A guy I know is around 55 and a good teacher who has faced quite a bit of age discrimination. At his job now, he is completing a year and will likely do another. Three younger teachers all ran away within a few months before he showed up. Maybe he is more tolerant, but being older can also mean more mature and less apt to skip out on a school. (Plus, he had some trouble getting a job due to his age, not experience or ability, so I figure he is more willing to accept some of the troubles many jobs present.) I've heard China likes older teachers. I also saw many older teachers in Veitnam.

Why do Koreans discriminate on age so much?
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarionG wrote:
I was offered two jobs in Seoul and I was 61 at the time... I'm not sure there's as much of an age problem as people think...

Was that a legal job? As I understand immigration law, you are inelgible for an E2 visa after age 60.
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