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mehmeh



Joined: 23 May 2007
Location: South, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: D-War in the US Reply with quote

The weekend reviews are coming in and it doesn't look good for Mr. Shim. A lot of critics are recommending people watch it for a good laugh...ouch.

http://movies.nytimes.com/2007/09/15/movies/15dragon.html

However, it looks like individual viewers are more positive.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808746240/user

Anyone surprised? I like a lot of Korean films, I hope the inevitable flop of this onedoesn't set back future releases.
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Freakstar



Joined: 29 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha! I'd say that nearly ALL of the positive individual reviews on Yahoo were posted by native Koreans. Their poor grammar and spelling gives them away. Laughing
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mack4289



Joined: 06 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The review was positive.

"Good, because once Baraki starts to boogie, �Dragon Wars� rocks. Bulcos, winged carnivores, munch on iron-rich helicopters. References to Ray Harryhausen and Toho productions fly. One sequence evokes �King Kong,� but with heat-seeking missiles. The seams in effects and dialogue glare, but lend charm.

Baraki eats elephants, but he can�t outrun cars, which lets Ethan and Sarah reach New Mexico for a �Godzilla�-like rumble between Imoogi. �We�ll see each other again,� says Sarah to Ethan after the bout. Hoo-boy. Batten the hatches."
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Henry VII



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard my students talking about this film, and happened to see a review of it on my favorite site for film reviews. Pajiba absolutely took it apart:

"Apparently, D-Wars is of South Korean origin, directed by Shim Hyung-rae, and the biggest film to ever come from that fine nation. That many of the elements in D-Wars might be lost in translation could account for the film�s remarkable clumsiness, but not quite to this degree. Now, an open letter to South Korea: As a vagabond student, I�ve known a large number of your citizens and, to a person, they�ve been kind, intelligent, well-balanced people and after seeing some of the exceptional films of Kim Ji-Woon, Bong Joon-ho, and of course, Park Chan-wook, I�ve come to expect great things from your cinema. But after watching D-War, I�m afraid I not only have to rescind these compliments, but to openly call for the genocide of all Koreans and their culture. In short, South Korea: You do a grave disservice to yourself by letting this Shim Hyung-rae make movies about you."

Ouch.

http://www.pajiba.com/dwar.htm
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry VII wrote:
I heard my students talking about this film, and happened to see a review of it on my favorite site for film reviews. Pajiba absolutely took it apart:

"Apparently, D-Wars is of South Korean origin, directed by Shim Hyung-rae, and the biggest film to ever come from that fine nation. That many of the elements in D-Wars might be lost in translation could account for the film�s remarkable clumsiness, but not quite to this degree. Now, an open letter to South Korea: As a vagabond student, I�ve known a large number of your citizens and, to a person, they�ve been kind, intelligent, well-balanced people and after seeing some of the exceptional films of Kim Ji-Woon, Bong Joon-ho, and of course, Park Chan-wook, I�ve come to expect great things from your cinema. But after watching D-War, I�m afraid I not only have to rescind these compliments, but to openly call for the genocide of all Koreans and their culture. In short, South Korea: You do a grave disservice to yourself by letting this Shim Hyung-rae make movies about you."

Ouch.

http://www.pajiba.com/dwar.htm


DAMN!

That movie had the letter B all over it. It looked cheesy just from commercials. Of all the flicks to send to the U.S., they picked that one....
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mack4289



Joined: 06 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Koreans are basically told to like this film for the good of the country.

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2879348

"In common with millions of other Koreans who have made D-War a hit, despite an avalanche of critical condemnation, Lee�s favorite part came toward the end when a message from director Shim Hyung-rae appears which says, �D-War and I will succeed in the world market without fail.� This moment is accompanied by �Arirang,� a Korean folk song.

.... Many critics who disliked the film cited its heavy-handed attempts to manipulate Korean patriotism.

Many Koreans are going to see the film because its computer graphics were made in Korea,� said film critic Kim Bong-seok. �They want it to be successful in the U.S. because it�s Korean, not because its good.�
The film�s reliance on patriotism, rather than the quality of its script or actors, has boosted D-War�s success at home, Kim says.

�When something wears a patriotic label, Koreans tend to give it unconditional support en masse,� he said. �That�s exactly what�s been happening with D-War.�

....Chin says he is repulsed by the film�s success and its reliance on patriotism to sell tickets.

�Patriotism and nationalism are sure-fire elements with Koreans, which is a remnant of past military regimes when nationalism bound people together,� Chin thunders. �Koreans see it as some kind of national honor that the film is going to the U.S. market with home made technology.�
He pointed out that the film�s promotion put emphasis on the fact it was going to be seen in the U.S at the time of its release in Korea.

In this regard, Kim says that D-War is more than just another movie.
�It is developing into a social phenomenon which everyone is eager to be part of,� Kim says. �When this happens, because of our national psychology, Koreans have an urge not to be isolated from it.�
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in_seoul_2003



Joined: 24 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freakstar wrote:
Ha! I'd say that nearly ALL of the positive individual reviews on Yahoo were posted by native Koreans. Their poor grammar and spelling gives them away. Laughing


Yea, noticed that too. Looks like VANK is putting its sheep to good use.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My students (adults) expanded their adjective vocabulary in looking for ways to comment on the movie. 'Silly' and 'childish' had never come up in class before. They did for this movie.
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MANDRL



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/dfrv?mid=1808746240&s=&rvid=7-498507&i=2&spl=&ys=09j7XXlfQIiEG7ycPPcCtg--


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There are reasons... "A movie from Heaven"
by tonypitt_usa (movies profile) Sep 14, 2007
112 of 192 people found this review helpful
"One of the Great Film Achievements"

I Think That D-war was one of the BEST Films of the 2007. The Visuals were excellent as well as the acting.

D-WAR is a spectacular and magnificent achievement for everyone involved. The sheer logistics of making such a film are mind-boggling. Director Hyung-rae Shim has fashioned a magnificent work of art that will, in all likelihood, be hailed decades from now as one of the greatest achievements in Cinema.

I watched this 3 times in the theaters. And It truly deserves the Gross it gained as well as the awards. For me If you dont like this Film It is Probaly because you cant understand it.I would encourage anyone to watch it. It is the movie of the decade.

Simply put... ?D-war? is one of the greatest motion picture experiences I imagine one could ever have! It deserves every ounce of praise it has received, every award it has won, and every Top Ten list it has made.

When was the last time you watched a movie and after felt so good that you wanted to kiss everybody in the theatre? Well, perhaps I exaggerated a little but this movie was everything I was waiting for. The moment D-war came to the screen I yelled so much I nearly passed out! It wasn�t only me, everybody was. The director got everything right with this one. From their unimaginably fantastic entrance to their masterfully created battles, this movie was fun from the start to the end.

Now before I go I have a word of advice for you who haven�t seen it yet; don�t listen, read or believe the reviews from those lunatic dinosaurs also known as movie critics. I thought you go a movie based on a cartoon from 80s to have fun. Nobody expect a complicated plot like in citizen Kane. This movie was for our generation, the younger generation who were grown with Dragon-wars. You, critics, should stay away from movies that have absolutely no connection with because you simply don�t understand them.

Director Hyung-rae Shim has fashioned a magnificent work of art that will, in all likelihood, be hailed decades from now as one of the greatest achievements in Cinema.

This movie rocked in every possible way, bring your parents, your friends, your friend�s friends, even people form street to watch it and prepare to be amazed Very Happy
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GEOM



Joined: 04 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: D-War in the US Reply with quote

mehmeh wrote:


However, it looks like individual viewers are more positive.

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808746240/user

Anyone surprised?


*Cough*

http://hotspotkorea.blogspot.com/2007/09/skewed-user-reviews-for-d-war.html

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Beware of the skewed D-war reviews from Korean netizens.

I'm sure that most of the good movie reviews on the english-language net is given by Korean nationalists or Shim's marketing team, or maybe combination of both.

http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/drv?mid=1808746240&s=&st=0&tot=611&ys=tIzaM4MW7g6CqkPhbmjc3Q--

Read the comments if you have a sense of humour. The reviews not only sound silly, but the fact that they're trying Masquerade as Americans and Japanese is just plain embarrassing.

Do they actually think they can get away trying to fool people with their obvious grammical and syntax errors? Nevermind attaching nationalist sentiments to a b-movie.

I can understand why people will put their nationalistic hopes on Korea's first american-wide released movie, if it was good. But what the hell is the point of it if Korea's first american-wide released movie is horrendous? Haven't they heard of quality control or have the foresight to realize a bundled first impression on the general public will probably screw up our chance of having a foothold in American theaters for a while?

It's no wonder Korea has a bad reputation abroad, because to those idiots popularity+quick recognition>>>>quality control (see my other post on how Taekwondo's quality went down the drain in name of national recognition). Not to mention they are too stupid to realize they've established our ourselves as a society of liars.

Secondly, I'm sure most of those low-iq male netizens who are so proud and nationalistic of our country that they pettly attack anyone who even dares criticize the movie, probably also are the same ones moaned and bitched when it came to doing something honorable like I dunno serving our nation's armed forces maybe? I also suspect quite of them flooded the Korean ministry of defense's message board with hate messages a few years back. Stupid fools.

They say that it's a waste of time and the training is too hard, well I don't see the Turks bitching about their mandatory service and their training is just as brutal, the real kicker is that aren't even as nationalistic as we are.

Anyways, here's the ridiculous reviews:

The following quote just takes the cake. He makes more effort than the others in pretending not to be Korean, even pretends to be awed by the Korean's CGI skills, but he USES HIS REAL NAME IN HIS PROFILE AS ALEX RHEE (click on "movies profile" next to his screen name). Rhee is a Korean last name.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:37 am    Post subject: Re: D-War in the US Reply with quote

mehmeh wrote:
The weekend reviews are coming in and it doesn't look good for Mr. Shim. A lot of critics are recommending people watch it for a good laugh...ouch.

His previous monster film (Yonggary) was worse. The man doesn't speak English, so why does he insist on all-English casts and dialogue?
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost



Joined: 28 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most movies are terrible. It's certainly no obstacle at the box office.
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mehamrick



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DAMN....

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/09/17/200709170029.asp

and the hits keep coming..
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browneyedgirl



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It must be bad if some Koreans are already apologizing for it.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mehamrick wrote:
DAMN....

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/09/17/200709170029.asp

and the hits keep coming..


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But of course, the underlying fact is that, in the eyes of the Globe's reviewer, until that chase sequence, "there was no evidence that anybody involved with this laughable fantasy knew what he or she was doing."


PAINFUL!
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