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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer, I believe she's getting at the fact that the whistle-blowers behind these busts are typically reported to be (jilted/jealous) Korean chicks who are turning in their pot-smoking foreign-teacher ex-boyfriends (out of revenge). And I think she's asking why there aren't any reports of...

jilted/jealous whitey chicks ratting out their pothead foreign-teacher ex-boyfriends. (reason: most of those guys aren't into whitey chicks, so no basis for jilting or jealousy)

Or maybe she's asking why there are no reports of ...

b) jilted/jealous K-boyfriends ratting out their pothead foreign-teacher ex-girlfriends (reason: most guys, whatever their race, just aren't that into revenge against an ex. For one, there's no profit in it, and it totally dashes any hopes for some post-breakup slamming. Also, from what little I've seen to judge by, I just don't get the impression that many whitey-teacher chicks in Korea are the lawbreaking stoner type. The doods on the other hand...)

And if that hasn't answered it, then I don't know what she means by "caught in the crossfire".
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd been reading something about how all these evil whitey exposes in the media were motivated by the "stealing our women" mentality, and it made me wonder whether any women were getting caught in these drug busts, and if they were getting treated the same as their male counterparts, or let off gently

The women on the cafe do seem a much more stable bunch than the men, but I' knew a few stoner chicks in Korea.
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
I'd been reading something about how all these evil whitey exposes in the media were motivated by the "stealing our women" mentality, and it made me wonder whether any women were getting caught in these drug busts, and if they were getting treated the same as their male counterparts, or let off gently.

Well, I'd say motivated mostly by jealousy & revenge in those cases where the crime may be anything from degree-forgery to teaching privates to doing drugs, but where the informant is always an angry K-chick. Sure, the "stealing our women" angle is a common enough theme and a powerful one. But in this particular expos�, it's merely what gives legs to an already-newsworthy (in Korea) story. So no, I think (because I've seen it enough times before) that this story would have run even without the up-in-arms "corrupting/deflowering our vestal virgins!" twist. Just wouldn't be AS juicy.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Guru...I had missed that one...thank you.

Well a woman scorned... Laughing
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The Cube



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gajackson1



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm -

I didn't want to comment before, and am not sure how much I want to do so now. I know more - a lot more - behind this - as of some inquiries last night, but i decided to sleep on it before writing here.

Sleep helped some, but i am not sure, still, what is appropriate to say and not.

I do feel fairly sure that I want to avoid the whole debate thing, however - my higher Pisces nature is pulling me hard in 2 directions along some of the general topics here.

I will say this - yes, the gf in question was Korean, and prone to anger - a stabbing occurred before this incident (meaning she assaulted him with a knife; something NOT uncommon when vengeful Koreans, a little time, and alcohol are involved. I 100% expect it to happen on that Korean Scandal show eventually).

In the case where a person, 'out of the blue,' voluntarily goes to the police first, there are VERY seldom repercussions for that person, even if they have been doing the same thing.

The guy, and at least a few of his friends I know, were real, real, lowlife gutter-types - I have known 2 of them for years, and would cringe at the though of having them as co-workers. I wouldn't let those particular 2 near my kids, teaching wise, and we quickly cut them out of our social circles years ago.

As for the foreign girl thing? Well, for those who knew/read/heard about the major PNU Busan bust/dragnet a few years back, that was all started by police raiding a suspected bar, and then HEAVILY leaning on a very young Canadian girl. She, in turn, gave up everyone & everything she knew - even made stuff up - just to get on a plane back home.

The reason I provided the above links was 1) to let you know a first-hand account of what happens to a person who is caught using drugs in Korea, and 2) to provide one possible explanation for why applications of the law seem to come down harder on particular segments of the population - in this case, ours.

I;m still sleepy (early Sun morn), but am quite sure I don't want to be sucked into debate here about these issues. I WILL try to keep you all informed about the actual story/circumstances, and tell you what I feel I can, as I can.

Regards,

G.
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info G.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you indeed.
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: It is very bad Reply with quote

It is bery bad and many will paint us all with the same brush. I think the Korean media will always focus on the foreigners! Rather than looking at the Korean fake degree holders (how many more are there). they are focusing on the "evil" foreigners. Simply put: "The more foreigners look bad-The more Koreans look better."
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Been There, Taught That



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

endo wrote:
Been There, Taught That wrote:
I would guess. Drugs continued to play a role in even the economy of the country, and so I'm sure their abuse affected the nation in a big way, even into the present.


Wow, that's a pretty bold statement.

Care to provide some examples to back up your point?

Are you suggesting that drug use was far more prevaliant in Communist nations?

I don't understand the point you are trying to make.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=7074680&dopt=AbstractPlus

Now, these are abstracts and not the genuine articles, but it gives a little evidence that in fact, in part because of high profitability as a cash crop, drugs--in this case opium, not confined, of course, to Vietnam--have a long history of involvement in many, most or even all cultures around the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Triangle_(Southeast_Asia)

This phenomenon doesn't go an overly long way back, but it wasn't created in a vacuum.

And Communism has always been, if you don't mind me saying, exploitative. Whatever can be gotten out of something is gotten, by any means possible (in this way, communism is more a reflection of and borrows in a more realistic way from basic humanity itself).

http://www.globalpolitician.com/interview.asp?ID=23

Finally, I was thinking heavily of the history of US military drug use in Vietnam, and how I happen to believe that exposure to the culture, conditions and long-standing illicit practices already ingrained by the time the first soldier arrived was a major factor that fueled the tragedy that ravaged the US forces (and to a lesser extent those of other participating countries) over those long years. Even acknowledging that there were already plenty of drug-addled draftees long before US involvement, it didn't help that they found an established trade to get them started.
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