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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:09 am Post subject:

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Big_Bird wrote:

And if they test for it, and you are positive, what will they do? Can they help you in anyway? Or will they just advise you have regular pap smears.

If any of the warts start to look tumorous, they could probably remove them in time. Regular pap smears could save your life. Other than that, I suppose the only thing they could do if you have HPV is tell you not to be a Typhoid Mary.

I understood that only some strains of HPV result in warts. And I suppose I assumed that not all strains of HPV were dangerous. I've never heard any public health campaigns aimed at getting people to test for HPV.

Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:14 am Post subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_papillomavirus

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Papillomaviruses are a diverse group of DNA-based viruses that infect the skin and mucous membranes of humans and a variety of animals. Over 100 different human papillomavirus (HPV) types have been characterized. Some HPV types cause benign skin warts, or papillomas, for which the virus family is named. HPVs associated with the development of such "common warts" are transmitted environmentally or by casual skin-to-skin contact.

A group of about 30-40 HPVs are typically transmitted through sexual contact and infect the anogenital region. Some sexually transmitted HPVs, such as types 6 and 11, can cause genital warts. However, most HPV types that infect the genitals tend not to cause noticeable symptoms.

Persistent infection with a subset of about 13 so-called "high-risk" sexually transmitted HPVs, including types 16, 18, 31, 33, 35, 39, 45, 51, 52, 56, 58, 59, and 68 � different from the ones that cause warts � can lead to the development of cervical dyskaryosis, or precancerous lesions, which may in turn lead to cancer of the cervix among women, or in men, cancer of the *beep* aka penile cancer. HPV infection is a necessary factor in the development of nearly all cases of cervical cancer.[1]

Cervical Pap smear testing is used to detect any HPV-induced cellular abnormalities. This allows targeted surgical removal of pre-cancerous lesions prior to the development of invasive cervical cancer. In the absence of Pap testing or treatment, about 1% of women with genital HPV infections will eventually go on to develop cervical cancer. Although the widespread use of Pap testing has reduced the incidence and lethality of cervical cancer in developed countries, the disease still kills several hundred thousand women per year worldwide. A recently approved HPV vaccine that blocks initial infection with several of the most common sexually transmitted HPV types may lead to further decreases in the incidence of HPV-induced cancer.[2]

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Genital HPV Prevalence in the United States

Quoted statistics of HPV infection vary, with one review finding reported values anywhere from 14% to 90%.[3] The major reason numbers conflict is simply a lack of context. A quote of the number of women that have ever been infected by any type will be much higher than the number that are currently infected by one of the high-risk types. The confusion surrounding the issue is highlighted by news coverage of a comprehensive study published in February 2007. Some headlines read "more women than expected have HPV", while others said that infection was "rarer than first estimated".[4][5] Both are actually true, in context:

The study found that, during 2003�2004, at any given time, 26.8% of women aged 14 to 59 were infected with at least one type of HPV (including those that are harmless). This was higher than previous estimates. Of the four types prevented by the Gardasil vaccine, however, only 3.4% were infected, which was lower than previous estimates. Of the high-risk types that cause cancer, 15.2% were infected.[6]

Genital HPV infection is very common, with estimates suggesting that more than 50% of women will become infected with one or more of the sexually transmitted HPV types at some point during adulthood.[7]

The American Social Health Association projections in 2006 were yet more pessimistic, predicting that about 75% of the reproductive population will have been infected with genital HPV infection in their lifetime.[8] Studies show that HPV infection is much more prevalent in the gay community. Studies show a link between HPV infection and penile and anal cancer, and the risk for anal cancer is 17 to 31 times higher among gay and bisexual men than among heterosexual men.[9][10]

Although it is possible to test for HPV DNA in men,[11] there are no FDA-approved tests for general screening, since the testing is inconclusive and considered medically unnecessary.[9][12]

There is no screening test for HPV infection in men. However, although there are no formal guidelines, some experts believe that men who receive anal sex should have a routine anal Pap test, especially if they also have HIV infection. Ask your health professional whether and how often you should be tested.[13]

kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:52 am Post subject:

Big_Bird wrote:

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Big_Bird wrote:

And if they test for it, and you are positive, what will they do? Can they help you in anyway? Or will they just advise you have regular pap smears.

You're right about that-- the danger isn't the warts, but the risk of cancer long-term. I think it messes with cell DNA, not blossoms into a tumour.

Many of them aren't dangerous, but a few are, and it's horribly horribly contagious. It's also untreatable, as it's a virus. The good news is that a) they can test for it here in Korea and b) it often goes away by itself.

Tokki1

Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:54 am Post subject:

Lol wtf is with the poll options (sorry I was drunk). Anyway, there's a lot of controversy as to whether HPV is forever or not. My 'friend' had it for almost 2 years and then it cleared up, after many nitrogen treatments. He just got his test results back today and he's clean~!! WTF??????? Happy happy joy joy

kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:58 am Post subject:

Tokki1 wrote:

Lol wtf is with the poll options (sorry I was drunk).

Anyway, there's a lot of controversy as to whether HPV is forever or not.

My 'friend' had it for almost 2 years and then it cleared up, after many nitrogen treatments. He just got his test results back today and he's clean~!!

WTF??????? Shocked

Happy happy joy joy Very Happy

Nitrogen treatments? Whaa? Is that for removing warts?
I had a friend (really, a friend) who was diagnosed a while ago, and was desperate to get rid of it. He wasn't offered any treatment at all.

Tokki1

Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:01 am Post subject:

kermo wrote:

Tokki1 wrote:

Happy happy joy joy Very Happy

Nitrogen treatments? Whaa? Is that for removing warts?
I had a friend (really, a friend) who was diagnosed a while ago, and was desperate to get rid of it. He wasn't offered any treatment at all.

Yeah man liquid nitrogen. Also packets of 'aldara' at about $170 a month which do nothing. Cleared up. And tested negative.

Strangest thing ever. Oh well, another bullet dodged.

Atavistic

Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:05 am Post subject:

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Big_Bird wrote:

And if they test for it, and you are positive, what will they do? Can they help you in anyway? Or will they just advise you have regular pap smears.

Problem is HPV affects more than half the female population in America and the non-wart, cancer-causing kind doesn't show visible symptoms in men. So men pass it around, but hey, there's no test for them!

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/STDFact-HPV-and-men.htm

Also, it can come, infect you, not show up, and go away. Meaning you may have had it and passed it on (condoms don't offer full protection) and you never knew it.

So telling you not to be a Typhoid Mary is basically impossible. In fact, because it's so common, many doctors (including OBGYNS) advise people to not disclose to their partners about it, since their partner probably already has it.

Tokki1

Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:18 am Post subject:

That is VERY strange since I just shelled out cash for an HPV test in Haebongchon which came back negative. God I love Korean medicine. Only the Koreans could devise such a test. God love them all. Goddamit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:11 am Post subject:

Yup. No other way of getting rid of it except to laser it off.

Tokki1

Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:13 am Post subject:

It's a virus. It just comes back. My 'friend's went away after 2 years. But there were many, many treatments to burn off the lesions. Gone now. At least that's what he's been told.

Masta_Don

Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:42 am Post subject:

Tokki1 wrote:

It's a virus. It just comes back. My 'friend's went away after 2 years. But there were many, many treatments to burn off the lesions. Gone now. At least that's what he's been told.

Two years is the average for when it goes away on its own. It's not known whether the body kills it, produces antibodies, or incorporates it in its system and still has trace amounts that won't show up on a test. Either way, should test negative within two years.

kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject:

Masta_Don wrote:

Tokki1 wrote:

It's a virus. It just comes back. My 'friend's went away after 2 years. But there were many, many treatments to burn off the lesions. Gone now. At least that's what he's been told.

I've heard it's more like three months. I did a heap of research, as this buddy was really panicking and was scared to do it himself.

Tokki1, I'm not sure what you mean. The symptoms don't show up on your body, but you can still get tested for it. You're lucky actually, because it's not commonly tested-for in men in the States. They do test women because of the risk of cervical cancer, but where do you suppose she got the virus? Silly, isn't it?

Kenny Kimchee

Joined: 12 May 2003

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject:

OiGirl wrote:

Kenny Kimchee wrote:

Help is on the way:

http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/STDFact-HPV-vaccine.htm

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The HPV vaccine is recommended for 11-12 year-old girls, and can be given to girls as young as 9. The vaccine is also recommended for 13-26 year-old girls/women who have not yet received or completed the vaccine series.

These recommendations have been proposed by the ACIP�a national group of experts that advises the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on vaccine issues. These recommendations are now being considered by CDC.

Why is the HPV vaccine recommended for such young girls?
Ideally, females should get the vaccine before they are sexually active. This is because the vaccine is most effective in girls/women who have not yet acquired any of the four HPV types covered by the vaccine. Girls/women who have not been infected with any of those four HPV types will get the full benefits of the vaccine.

Will sexually active females benefit from the vaccine?
Females who are sexually active may also benefit from the vaccine. But they may get less benefit from the vaccine since they may have already acquired one or more HPV type(s) covered by the vaccine. Few young women are infected with all four of these HPV types. So they would still get protection from those types they have not acquired. Currently, there is no test available to tell if a girl/woman has had any or all of these four HPV types.

Why is the HPV vaccine only recommended for girls/women ages 9 to 26?
The vaccine has been widely tested in 9-to-26 year-old girls/women. But research on the vaccine�s safety and efficacy has only recently begun with women older than 26 years of age. The FDA will consider licensing the vaccine for these women when there is research to show that it is safe and effective for them.

Know of any doctors in Korea who will provide this for a woman 26+?

Here's part of a weekly email I received from the International Clinic in Itaewon:

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4. The long awaited HPV vaccine will be available in Korea, in mid-September. It has been approved for females age 9 to 26 and males 9 to 15. Other age groups also can get it after getting test for presence of HPV which is available at the Clinic.
The HPV vaccination, gardasil, is a series of 3 shots given over 6 months (0,2,6).

The cost of the vaccine is around 200 dollars per shot which includes administration.

http://www.internationalclinic.co.kr/

everydavid

Joined: 26 Aug 2004
Location: dans la lune

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject:

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