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Ahh...the middle finger...

 
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Ahh...the middle finger... Reply with quote

After at least 6 months (not including the summer vacation) of not having to discipline kids for giving each other the middle finger, it has reappeared witha vengeance the last few days. Have there been any recent movies that have fueled this reemergence or are my students simply being silly for thinking that I wouldn't rip them a new one for doing it?
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Fresh Prince



Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: The glorious nation of Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen that in my classes lately too. Some of the students have also been using really odd profanities as well. I asked them where they heard the profanities and they told me that they heard them from a movie they watched.
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Masta_Don



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my favorite teaching stories:

Coming back from break a student caught my attention, out of breathe and frazzled looking. Stuttering in his simple English he says, "Teacher, he fuck me."

Completely taken aback I ask him, "What?!"

And he repeats, "Teacher, he fuck me." Having been new to teaching at this point I couldn't fathom some 10 year old Korean boy knowing that word and figured I must be mishearing so I asked, "Do you mean boxed?" I made boxing motions while doing so.

"No, no, teacher he fuck me." Then he sticks up his middle finger, points at it and then at his fellow student. "Teacher, he fuck me."

I was so relieved to figure out that there wasn't barebacking going on in my classroom while I was out that I didn't take any disciplinary action.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give them the British version a two fingers backwards peace sign and say
BOLLOCKS
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Xenu bless 'em.
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Bigs



Joined: 15 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just had some middle school secind grader send me off with a hearty "**** You!" as soon as I closed the door.

Go immediately back in.. of course the K-teacher had already buggered off - and the kids deny it...

Makes me wonder why I bother... roll on Cheusok! Rolling Eyes
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigs wrote:
I just had some middle school secind grader send me off with a hearty "**** You!" as soon as I closed the door.

Go immediately back in.. of course the K-teacher had already buggered off - and the kids deny it...

Makes me wonder why I bother... roll on Cheusok! Rolling Eyes


That's when you give the kid extra special "catch up" homework he/she needs to do over the holiday.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think part of the problem is that the translation in the Korean subtitles for the movies the students are watching are not vulgar expressions. Another problem is the students hearing native English speakers they encounter (at school, in their neighborhood, at stores, etc.) using the foul language. Of course, there's also the problem of some of the kids just being brats and using the words on purpose knowing full well how rude it is.
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
I think part of the problem is that the translation in the Korean subtitles for the movies the students are watching are not vulgar expressions. Another problem is the students hearing native English speakers they encounter (at school, in their neighborhood, at stores, etc.) using the foul language. Of course, there's also the problem of some of the kids just being brats and using the words on purpose knowing full well how rude it is.


That wasn't the problem at my school. I've been at my school since February 2006. I dropped the hammer on all my students about that crap from day one. They know what it means and they know to NEVER do it in front of me. I just wondered if something else has influenced them enough to practically commit suicide by doing it in my classroom.
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oneofthesarahs



Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one student who sadly shakes his head every time he doesn't understand something and says, "Oh, sh*t." It's reached the point that I barely even react to it anymore. He's not a bad kid, but hell if I know where he picked it up.

I've also noticed a big jump in the use of flipping the bird. I guess it's good to know that it's an epidemic and my students aren't just going crazy.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just get a few 18s and dog babies, maybe a 10 baby. But they're uni students, so I just evil-eye stare at them to let them know their private conversation is not as private as they think. Only one student I've had actually used the F-word more than once; warned him, did it again, warned him again, did it a third time... time for you to write lines on the board. I made him fill it, too. And I didn't let him get away with oversized letters or huge vertical spaces between sentences. He thought i was a genius for noticing what he was doing. Rolling Eyes I think the razzing he got from classmates fro doing the lines put a stop to the profanity. He never said it again.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd think that for a university class, you could enforce a policy of ejecting a student who continues cursing ("speech or actions disrupting the class") after he's been warned and mark that as an absence. Of course, that's assuming class attendance is also counted towards the grade.
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koon_taung_daeng



Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Location: south korea

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oneofthesarahs wrote:
I have one student who sadly shakes his head every time he doesn't understand something and says, "Oh, sh*t." Ibut hell




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