Korean Job Discussion Forums

[julian_w]

Question #1: Why did the ref. not either deduct a point, or at least warn Choi about kicking below the belt?

Question #2: Is it 'legal' to kick below the belt in K1?

Question #3: Where was the ref. from?

Question #4: If two thirds of the judges thought Choi had such a distinct edge over Mo by the end, how come all his initially noisy supporters were again silenced by the end of the fight?

Question #5: What's your opinion?

[Ilsanman]

I have not watched the whole match, so I can not judge well. But if the crowd is silenced, it tells you something.

I am pretty sure low blows are illegal. Hmmm

The ref....no idea.

I guess a 3rd match is in order. Outside of Korea.

[Donkey Beer]

This Korean judges/referee do this every time Choi fights in Korea. The very same thing happened when he fought Semmy Schilt; most Koreans have no problem with dishonesty so this was really no surprise.

In all other event locations the referee will call a timeout after a groin shot. In Korea, a groin shot is viewed as a count down.

Choi won the same way as before- push-kick-jab bullsh�t that does no damage.

The ref must be a very rich man now. This is the same guy who took Leko out of the fight when he was ready to go.

[doggyji]

[gwhitey09]

i was at the fight and it was a joke. That circus animal barely landed anything at all. Mighty Mo actually landed several good punches. The whole crowd was silent at the end because they were sure their prize fighter lost. It is just disgraceful that the judges actually let that retard win.

[anyway]

However bad it was, it couldn't match the screw job they gave the little Thai when he fought Choi in Seoul a while back. The little man kicked Choi in every part of his body, yes even the head, which had the Thai literally upside down in mid-air. Bad azz! It was a classic David and Goliath, but they gave the prize to the hometown hero. The Thai, usually a gracious loser, just walked out of the ring. KOREA BITING!!

[NQtropics]

That was one of the most disgraceful decisions I've ever seen. Favoratism is rampant in K-1. And it doesn't just happen in Korea - Musashi's been helped along a number of times.

Also, in a Bonjasky v Le Banner fight in Holland the THREE dutch judges ruled slightly in favour in Bonjasky when Le Banner was clearly the winner. After the fight, Le Banner then made official complaints to K-1 Japan and K-1 USA who reviewed the fight and prombtly reversed the decision.

Had it up to here with K-1. It's time for something new and fair.

[Ilsanman]

I just finished watching the match in full.

I would have to say this is quite a disgraceful and lopsided decision.

1st round: Fairly even, as neither fighter did much. I'd award it to Mo for superior aggression.

2nd round: Certainly Mo's round. He landed many clear shots on Choi, and though Choi landed some back, Mo showed no signs of being hurt. However, the nut kick puts it over the top.

3rd round: I'd also award this to Mo, as he has superior aggression and landed more good blows on his opponent. A little closer, though.


Choi was clearly scared of Mo. H esure showed it. Even that's a good reason to award it to the other guy. For a guy of his size and power, I'd expect a lot more out of him.

[Cheonmunka]

Thanks Doggi for those figures.
So it was the Japs who were paid-off?

NQTropics: When I scrolled down your avatar brought instant cheer to me. Especially just after reading about Choi the 'Moron,' then seeing that avatar. Wow.

[Mr Crowley]

Is it on-line? I want to watch it, I missed it last night.

[Rteacher]

I watched it twice. In my opinion, it was a fair decision in a close fight - although I agree that it may have been arranged beforehand for the sake of the promotion.

Choi clearly won the first round by scoring more with his kicks while Mo landed like nothing. Arguably, Mighty Mo won the second round because he landed a couple glancing blows which looked a lot better than they actually were, but Choi scored more points otherwise.

The third round was close, but again I think that Choi managed to score more points, while Mo couldn't land a clean shot.

I think that the TV view is better for K-1 than the view that most fans can get at the arena. Every round, Mo would make a couple aggressive charges, and his punches look like they had mean intentions that would at least knock down Choi, but practically all missed or were effectively blocked. I don't think Mo landed even one clean punch the whole fight, and he only scored a couple glancing punches that had little effect.

Hongman was smartly cautious most of the time, choosing to jab with his feet instead of leaving a lazy left jab out there that Mo would be able to time and counter with his devastating overhand right.

However, in terms of effective aggression, Choi actually moved forward and scored with his kicks way more than Mo did with his couple of bull charges a round.

I can understand someone viewing the fight from a distance thinking that Mo's work was much more impressive with his scary roundhouse misses, but there's no way that he should have been given the decision considering how few shots he actually landed.

I disagree that Choi has been awarded grossly unfair decisions in Korea - they all were at least pretty close. I thought he got a bad decision when he lost to LeBanner...

That said, Hongman certainly didn't look very good , but (assuming that it was on the level ...) he played it safe by not trying to mix it up with hard punches against a very dangerous fighter.

The other fight I watched a couple times was the Peter Aerts - Ray Sefo match, and that one definitely looked fishy. These guys seemed a little too friendly, and although Aerts methodically mounted a steady attack, Sefo looked like he just wanted to be someplace else - and didn't act very professional at times during the match (eg; turning his back on his opponent and unexpectedly quitting after the first (or second) round. Maybe he was hurt going in, though...

[cwaddell]

Excellent night, I especially liked the Feitosa fight. Hong Man Choi is a waste of space, but I was happy to see him in all of his carnival freak glory. Surely a fix, Mighty Mo haded him his arse on a plate.

[Ilsanman]

I totally disagree with you. You said Mo didn't land a single good blow. Look at Choi's face after he got pounded in the corner the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd times.

Mo showed no sign of pain except when he got crotch kicked. Often judges award matches based on aggression. Choi showed none. His kicks were weak and did nothing. He acted like he was afraid of his opponent. That is not the way to win a K1 match. Mo was the real winner.

[Alan Partidge]

I think it could've gone either way. Mo did land some fairly good glancing blows, but he was circling and backing away a lot too. As neither fighter really did much damage, you'd have to give it to the aggressor. Hong man was coming forward more often than Mo.

Hong man should be much better, but he did use his size well to keep Mo at bay. They could've gone for a tie and more rounds. I don't understand why people try to punch Hong man's head. They should just pick a leg and kick it over and over in the same place.

The Sefo v Aerts fight was a disgrace. Neither wanted to be there and Sefo was crying or puking in his corner after the first round.

[normalcyispasse]