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luvnpeas

Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: GEPIK: Bonus Airfare Reimbursement |
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I renewed my contract, and as a result qualified for a free (I thought) roundtrip ticket home. Now the school is claiming it only has to reimburse me 75% o the ticket, based on an unintelligeible part of the contract that does say something about 75% (incoherently). This is from the 2006 GEPIK contract. Is anyone else having this experience? |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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That's not in the 2007 contract. Since you renewed this year, take it up with them or contact Dain Bae. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: GEPIK: Bonus Airfare Reimbursement |
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luvnpeas wrote: |
I renewed my contract, and as a result qualified for a free (I thought) roundtrip ticket home. Now the school is claiming it only has to reimburse me 75% o the ticket, based on an unintelligeible part of the contract that does say something about 75% (incoherently). This is from the 2006 GEPIK contract. Is anyone else having this experience? |
It says they will pay up to a MAXIMUM of 75% of the published FULL FARE rate on Korean Air.
Call the GEPIK office and ask for help from the liason (Dain Bae). |
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icicle
Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Location: Gyeonggi do Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Definitely do call GEPIK ... They did explicitely mention 100% airfare reimbursement at the orientation last week ... and that if anyone had problems they should contact them ... |
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mountain goat
Joined: 18 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah mine says the same thing, 75% of the airfare, but my school havent said anything and I handed in my tickets yesterday. They have been absolute sticklers when it has come to my contract in the past. I'll let you know how it goes. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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mountain goat wrote: |
Yeah mine says the same thing, 75% of the airfare, but my school havent said anything and I handed in my tickets yesterday. They have been absolute sticklers when it has come to my contract in the past. I'll let you know how it goes. |
Double check the EXACT wording of your contract. I think you will find that is says 75% of the Korean Air full fare rate (which is about double the usual airfare to anywhere).
Post it here if you are not sure. |
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luvnpeas

Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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This is from the 2006 contract, under which I was operating at the time.
Article 9
3. In the case of renewal of this contract pursuant to the foregoing 2,
employee will be given a free round-trip ticket.
4. The round-trip airfare for the employee's home leave shall be loaned
by employer based on an economy class air-fare (less than 75% of the
regular price) of the most direct flight available from Incheon to the
airport nearest the employee's residence.
As usual, it is not very clear. They didn't "loan" me anything. It is not clear what "regular price" means. But "given a free round-trip ticket" would seem to be clear, regardless of what the 75% junk is supposed to be about. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Its simple. If round trip ticket is $1000. Then the school has to give you $750 if you decide NOT to take the plane ride.
Plane ticket prices are not fixed. The school has to see when you are leaving and the prices of airline tickets at that time. If you leave during Christmas then you can expect a crap ton of money since airfare around holidays are very expensive.
If you leave in the middle of April then chances are you aren't going to get as much. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:48 am Post subject: |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
Its simple. If round trip ticket is $1000. Then the school has to give you $750 if you decide NOT to take the plane ride.
Plane ticket prices are not fixed. The school has to see when you are leaving and the prices of airline tickets at that time. If you leave during Christmas then you can expect a crap ton of money since airfare around holidays are very expensive.
If you leave in the middle of April then chances are you aren't going to get as much. |
NO, not quite correct..... if the REGULAR price is $1000 they would give you $750 but who pays regular price for an airticket?
I have never paid the REGULAR price (the price they print on the bottom of the paper ticket) for one. The price I pay is usually 1/2 that and I have never paid as high as 75% of that price even on short notice.
Contact GEPIK and complain or be quiet and eat the loss - choice is yours. |
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chris_J2

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: Airfare |
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100% reimbursement for the inbound flight, & 75% for the outbound flight. Same same in my 2006 contract with GEPIK. |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject: Interesting question... |
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The 75% language in the contracts has caused quite a confusion here during the last couple of years since they included it. It all came as a result of people who were purchasing their own airline tickets home and expecting the schools to pay for them. GEPIK got wise to this because some people were purchasing expensive tickets and then cashing them in and not going home at all. Neat trick, so they determined that they would pay up to 75% of the full fare price for a round trip ticket home, knowing that people could find travel packages for at least a 25% discounted price...
Unfortunately, now it looks as if the school will only have to pay 75% of the cost for an airline ticket, but that is not the case. They should be purchasing a round trip ticket that is priced at 75% or less of what the regular airfare would be...My school, which is a GEPIK school, understood this only after consulting with the powers that be at GEPIK...
The schools should use the same diligence they expect from the foreign teachers who were trying to rip them off before...Now, if you are not planning on going home, then they will reimburse you 75% of what the regular airfare price would be to your home destination. I know this is a fact because I chose that option this year and it was like getting an extra bonus along with my end of the year bonus...That is what I know and if you need more information let me know and I'll be happy to share what I can...
I don't work at the GEPIK Office, but I have made it my business to be up to date with what they know and what they are doing in terms of my contract...They are a business like any other business in this country...You have to do your homework if you don't want to be taken advantage of... |
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luvnpeas

Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting question... |
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tob55 wrote: |
They should be purchasing a round trip ticket that is priced at 75% or less of what the regular airfare would be |
Unfortunately, there is no obvious or official number for what the "regular airfare" would be. It changes according to the inscrutable methods of airline pricing, e.g. seat availability, time between purchase and travel date, etc. Also, it is not particularly clear that by "regular" the contract is referring to an official airline price class.
The contract is an incoherent mess. This is one part. You'd think they'd nail down what they want it to say and then have a professional translation service render it into coherent English. Having it translated by someone whose native language is not English is a sure way to create confusion. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:43 am Post subject: Re: Interesting question... |
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luvnpeas wrote: |
tob55 wrote: |
They should be purchasing a round trip ticket that is priced at 75% or less of what the regular airfare would be |
Unfortunately, there is no obvious or official number for what the "regular airfare" would be. It changes according to the inscrutable methods of airline pricing, e.g. seat availability, time between purchase and travel date, etc. Also, it is not particularly clear that by "regular" the contract is referring to an official airline price class.
The contract is an incoherent mess. This is one part. You'd think they'd nail down what they want it to say and then have a professional translation service render it into coherent English. Having it translated by someone whose native language is not English is a sure way to create confusion. |
Most (but not all) of the older GEPIK contracts define, in the contract, "regular fare" as being the published regular price on Korean air.
3. In the event Employee travels to his/her home country pursuant to the foregoing 2, Employee will be given a free round-trip ticket. The round-trip airfare (which is less than 75% of Korean Air economy class regular price) for Employee�s flight shall be based on the rate provided for in 4 hereafter. In the event employee does not travel to his/her home country pursuant to the foregoing 2, Employee will be given the amount of money equivalent to the round-trip airfare (which is less than 75% of Korean Air economy class regular price). The round-trip ticket airfare for Employee shall be based on the rate provided for in 4 hereafter.
4. The round-trip airfare for Employee�s home leave shall be loaned by Employer based on Korean Air economy class air-fare(less than 75% of the regular price) of the most direct flight available from Incheon to the airport nearest to Employee�s residence.
5.If Employee completes the Term of Employment without the intention to renew and leaves Korea within 10 days from the expiration date, Employer shall pay the airfare within the limit of 75% of the normal Korean Air economy class for Employee�s one way return flight.
This was from the 2006-2007 and first version of the 2007-2008 GEPIK contract (changed in the middle of Feb 2007 to eliminate the 75% restriction).
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luvnpeas

Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: Interesting question... |
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ttompatz wrote: |
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3. In the event Employee travels to his/her home country pursuant to the foregoing 2, Employee will be given a free round-trip ticket. The round-trip airfare (which is less than 75% of Korean Air economy class regular price) for Employee�s flight shall be based on the rate provided for in 4 hereafter. In the event employee does not travel to his/her home country pursuant to the foregoing 2, Employee will be given the amount of money equivalent to the round-trip airfare (which is less than 75% of Korean Air economy class regular price). The round-trip ticket airfare for Employee shall be based on the rate provided for in 4 hereafter. |
My contract in question is the 2006 GEPIK contract; I began in September 2006. It doesn't say anything about Korean Air. The phrase "which is less than 75% of Korean Air economy class regular price" suggests that they will only reimburse 75% of an economy class ticket. The phrase makes no sense if "regular" is taken as excluding "economy". |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: |
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I'm into the third year at the same (GEPIC) high school. When I renewed the first time, in 2006, I was hoping that they would pay my airfare to visit the U.S. based on the clauses in the 2006 contract (though I figured that the 2005 contract - which did not include those clauses - might be applicable)
Actually, I think that they did apply the clauses that were in the 2006 contract, but my school liason told me that the ministry official told her that the clause refering to their "loaning" me the money superseded the "free ticket" clause. So I had to pay them back for that airfare (in regular monthly payments.)
However, I was later told that if I re-signed again in 2007 they would reimburse my airfare for visiting home - which they did. I'm wondering now if I'm the only one who had to repay an airfare "loan" for re-signing last year... |
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