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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:55 am Post subject: |
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I find Israelis pretty loud.
And I work with a Canadian who bellows. Nice guy, but very loud. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:01 am Post subject: |
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I'm Irish and I can talk more loudly than any Korean. It's just that I choose not to. |
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seoulunitarian

Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:02 am Post subject: re: |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
It's the first thing I notice whenever I see groups of foreigners here. |
Me too, but I think that means we've been here too long. I do vaguely remember being annoyed at the Korean speaking volume when I first arrived.
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Rock
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:20 am Post subject: |
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This is a phenomenon that I'd querried about whilst living there. I found out that to most Koreans it stems from their past of being fishermen, therefore needing to talk loud while fishing long distances. This is what the Koreans told me.
I didn't, and still don't, believe it. Matter-o-fact, I've experienced other Asian countries and find that it's kind of a frenzy phenomenon, a battle for one-up-manship, dominance, a kind of jump-in-and-swim mentality. .
I hated it, finding that it wasn't involuntary, but a sort of smokescreen. |
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sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:49 am Post subject: |
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I think the kids and the salesmen are the loudest talking and most rudest people I have ever encountered in schools and marketplaces, but at least they pose no real threat to my personal safety. Or do they? I always hope they don't try to stab my eyes out when they think I am not listening well enough. They already got me in the arse a few times for which I went ballistic about.
I think it has something to do with the ultra competition that a crowded, confined, and small environment instills on masses of people trapped in it, be it kids or adults. Think about the difference of being caged up vs. living in a whole spacious field. To put it in analogy, one dog with lots of space such as a big green yard is much quieter (and happier!) than that the same one dog within a pack of dogs cramped in a small house. It's like the people here are virtually caged up so they are hyper talking, in attempt to be heard. I am like, "STOP!". Stop right now what you are doing, because you're not going to accomplish anything by over whelming me and my nerves and making me pissed the hell off.
I thought Europe was crowded, loud, and competitive, but Korea has them blown out of the water big time. Europe is actually very pleasant with plenty of room to operate your living in. Korea racks your brain due to so many loud mouths bombarding you in competition to be heard!!! I think it's so funny when a loudmouth kid goes, " Hi! Bye!." at the top of his lungs in 1 second flat! I fell over laughing in a crowd of people last Saturday and everyone stared their eyes until they ran out of time which wasn't long in the land of Bali! Bali!. Upright ultra competition on a human in your face level is what this is all about.
I know you are only 2 feet in front of me and I am screaming at you at the top of my freaking lungs for your pencil I so need cuz my classmates, who brought a pencil, are beating me at writing, "The Big Blue Bug Went to Town to Buy a Pencil", since I leave my pencil at house like a big forgetful loud mouth, but can you hear me Mr. Teacher Man!!!? Gimme Pencil!!!!! LOL
Some people think they can't talk loud enough so they attach speakers to their Bongo trucks to ensure we are up and adam for their egg, potato, and what ever sales attempts. RLMAO! They sound sick and miserable after you hear the same loud daily speech for many hundreds of days straight on end. I often think, if I were Korean, I would stop them or at least pop their tires to tell them to stop intruding our homes with loud mouth hogwash. I often think, if I were Korea, I would smack the hell out of rude loud mouths, both kids and adults. If this really is a conservative culture, why is rude loud mouthing tolerated? I would had gotten scolded for loud rudeness back in midwest USA.
Since this is not my country and I am not Korean, I can't go stopping Koreans from being loud mouthed since that is a senseless thing to attempt in such a loud mouthed culture far from home. I am learning to just mentally block out all that loud mouthed hogwash the best I can. I ignore many loudmouthed imbecile's regardless of how pissed off they get. I am looking forward to my vacation on a silent white sand beach. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Ever been to a Cantonese restaurant in Hong Kong at around 11am on a Saturday or a Sunday?
Beats the hell outta Koreans anyday. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Man, I don't know, but i went in to work today having 4 or 5 hours of sleep in the past two days. I had a break between classes and i was sitting in my office area, which is kind of tucked into a corner but is not closed off on one side. My head was hung low, not sleping, just resting in a dense fog of semi-consciousness with my eyes closed, and i realized that the only sound I heard was about 17 kids screaming their heads off in the four rooms of the school commonly used by students. There seemed to be no reason for it, just kids running around screaming at the tops of their voices. i guess it's fun for them. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Kids are noisy everywhere I think.
I don't find the locals to be especially noisy people except when they're arguing, which is common enough. But the noise level in many places is a bit much at times. The trucks, the guys in the stores, blaring music. I think many Koreans would feel too lonesome or something in a quiet, spaced out place. That's Seoul and other big cities anyway. Seems like Japan is quieter. My last visit to Canada was years ago. Montreal. Downtown seemed almost empty and silent. |
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KOREAN_MAN
Joined: 01 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Weird. I always found foreigners extremely loud in subways/buses. They look nice and all, but so loud for some reason.
In restaurants, though, Korean ajusshies and ajummas win. |
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IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Where the hell are you from?
Ever hear frat boys walking around at 2:00pm in the morning? Yeah, I've never heard anything in Korea that could top that. |
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endofthewor1d

Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Location: the end of the wor1d.
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: Re: Do Koreans have the loudest voices? |
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Julius wrote: |
I used to think Americans were loud, lets say around 10 decibels. Then I noticed African Americans seemed to speak a couple of decibels higher. |
i wonder how the 'african americans' feel about not being good enough to be included with the 'americans'. |
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Lao Wai

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Location: East Coast Canada
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
I think a person's perception/tolerance for noise probably depends on where they come from. I've grew up in small towns with tonnes of space, peace and quiet. When I first went to Korea I would sometimes almost go into shock when I'd be in a loud, crowded area for an extended period of time(like the underground shopping malls or PNU area in Busan). It would just completely overwhelm me. My eyes would start to burn and I'd get a splitting headache. The longer I was there my tolerance increased but I still didn't like it.
I think if you grew up in a more condensed environment you'd be able to handle the noise a bit better. Every time I'd return to Canada after a year in Korea, my parents' neighbourhood seemed deserted...like there was a nuclear holocaust or something. |
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Natalia
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Americans are louder. You can always hear every word of their conversations - even when they are trying to be quiet because they are talking about someone nearby.
I've been in Europe most of this year, and it's been a bit of a running joke that we can always hear an American tourist a long time before we can see them.
It's not that they mean to be loud - it's just the way they talk.
Yes, other English speakers can be loud when they drink (Australians and the English), but the American accent just generally booms. |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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I guess you've never worked with Greeks then?
Fabulous people, but when they get excited or pissed off, get the earplugs. |
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Rock
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Natalia wrote: |
Americans are louder. You can always hear every word of their conversations - even when they are trying to be quiet because they are talking about someone nearby.
I've been in Europe most of this year, and it's been a bit of a running joke that we can always hear an American tourist a long time before we can see them.
It's not that they mean to be loud - it's just the way they talk.
Yes, other English speakers can be loud when they drink (Australians and the English), but the American accent just generally booms. |
"Americans are louder" my arse. We're not talking about "conversations" either. We're talking about 'the pitch' of a persons voice.
Grant it in a social situation Americans may 'seem' to sound louder just because they're very affable people and must talk to be part of the social atmosphere. But their pitch?
It doesn't compare to the Koreans, nor the fact that the Koreans' lack of sensitivity in this area compounds things a hundred-fold. For the most part Americans do have sensitivity in this area. Sure, American tourists-and any tourists, for that matter-might guffaw and jaw, but I'd never heard such an uproar in America as I have in Korea.
Believe me, I'd tested this once I'd returned to America and was so relieved to hear a more dulcent speech and peaceful environment.
Don't try to brand Americans again, making us seem oblivious to our flaws and stereotyping us to suit a sense of political prejudice.
Last edited by Rock on Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:53 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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