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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:39 am    Post subject: War profiteering Reply with quote

I don't know if anyone saw the segment on 60 Minutes, but I have to say I'm throughly disgusted by it. I can't remember the name of the company now, but they milked the US Coalition Forces of $50 million. The company recieved substandard performance reviews by the military and still continued to earn money.

The company was convicted and ordered to repay $10 million plus interest and penalties. I'm guessing it will not even come close to the $50 million they made.

What is even more disgusting is one of the two men that owned the company had "close ties" to the White House.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kellogg, Brown, and Root? They're a subsidiary of Halliburton, the company Cheney used to head up.

I guess they're not showing the "Report waste, abuse, and fraud!" AFN commercials over in Iraq.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsucker wrote:
Kellogg, Brown, and Root? They're a subsidiary of Halliburton, the company Cheney used to head up.

I guess they're not showing the "Report waste, abuse, and fraud!" AFN commercials over in Iraq.


Likely not showing them over here in Korea either.

Kellog Brown & Root is also further a subsidiary of SKULL & BONES Idea

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_%26_Bones
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

License To Kill

Man thinks 'cause he rules the earth he can do with it as he please
And if things don't change soon, he will.
Oh, man has invented his doom,
First step was touching the moon.

http://bobdylan.com/audio/albumtracks/WindowsMedia/56/license_30th.asx

Now, there's a woman on my block,
She just sit there as the night grows still.
She say who gonna take away his license to kill?

Now, they take him and they teach him and they groom him for life
And they set him on a path where he's bound to get ill,
Then they bury him with stars,
Sell his body like they do used cars.

Now, there's a woman on my block,
She just sit there facin' the hill.
She say who gonna take away his license to kill?

Now, he's hell-bent for destruction, he's afraid and confused,
And his brain has been mismanaged with great skill.
All he believes are his eyes
And his eyes, they just tell him lies.

But there's a woman on my block,
Sitting there in a cold chill.
She say who gonna take away his license to kill?

Ya may be a noisemaker, spirit maker,
Heartbreaker, backbreaker,
Leave no stone unturned.
May be an actor in a plot,
That might be all that you got
'Til your error you clearly learn.

Now he worships at an altar of a stagnant pool
And when he sees his reflection, he's fulfilled.
Oh, man is opposed to fair play,
He wants it all and he wants it his way.

Now, there's a woman on my block,
She just sit there as the night grows still.
She say who gonna take away his license to kill?

Copyright � 1983 Special Rider Music

http://rstasel.com/KNEWradio/License%20To%20kill.mp3
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought one of this guy's CDs at a little music festival in Western Canada this past summer Wink

LICENSE TO KILL
http://www.box.net/shared/n62rh5q7mj
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faster



Joined: 03 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing like a conspiracy nutjob to invalidate a pretty good post.

War profiteering is real and despicable, and, sadly, as old as wars themselves.

Here's an interesting tidbit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush#Nazi_collaboration_controversy
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gestapo Open Fire On Car In Iraq, Kill 2 Christian Women
By KIM GAMEL, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD - Guards working for an Australian-owned security company fired on a car as it approached their convoy Tuesday, killing two women civilians before speeding away from the latest bloodshed blamed on the deadly mix of heavily armed protection details on Baghdad's crowded streets.



The deaths of the two Iraqi Christians � including one who used the white sedan as an unofficial taxi to raise money for her family � came a day after the Iraqi government handed U.S. officials a report demanding hefty payments and the ouster from Iraq of embattled Blackwater USA for a chaotic shooting last month that left at least 17 civilians dead.

MORE ...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071010/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

faster wrote:
Nothing like a conspiracy nutjob to invalidate a pretty good post.

War profiteering is real and despicable, and, sadly, as old as wars themselves.

Here's an interesting tidbit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush#Nazi_collaboration_controversy


This could've been a good thread.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
faster wrote:
Nothing like a conspiracy nutjob to invalidate a pretty good post.

War profiteering is real and despicable, and, sadly, as old as wars themselves.

Here's an interesting tidbit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush#Nazi_collaboration_controversy


This could've been a good thread.


Or just add it to the WAR CRIMES thread Idea
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course the Iraq war is all about profiteering and taking a big gamble. While collusion is occurring, particularly with former VP Dick Cheney and former CEO of Halliburton, the US government is being manipulated by big companies and billionaires into doing things that are not in the best interest of the American people and the world. There only solution is dumb down the American people into thinking everything will be OK since it has been so far, but this is a fallacy beyond belief. For 5 years I have strongly felt that Americans must rise and demand that her government serves her in the best interests of the people, not the few billionaires and large corporations that are ultimately destroying our national, political, social, and financial interests.

I believe the whole point to the war is securing that great big oil supply to further fuel the American engine. If America can do that, it will bring oil prices artificially low once again, allowing further global super power domination. I say artificially low since in the 1990's and before, gas was only a fraction per gallon in the states than it was in Europe and the rest of the developed world. In 1999, it was only 80 cents a gallon in the US, while it was a whopping $4.90 in Germany and most western European countries. I seen this first hand to be fact. I knew that gas was artificially low in the US due to the US having the upper hand in the global economy and manipulating things in their favor.

Now, to keep gas prices low enough to over power the super power nation, Iraq has to be secured and it is not working out. Of course, the big companies like Halliburton and many others want this war to drag on as to milk the US government, cough, I mean the American citizizens of their tax dollars.

Americans are receiving very little value today for their tax dollar while going into hopeless big debt that could crash the government when the Asian lenders say, "no more, pay up what you owe now!" I fear so much that that day is coming... And when it does, an exodus of rich people and big money occurs, leaving the country in shambles and in big trouble. This is when any one who wants her, be it the Chinese or other people, they will take her, reform her in a way not in my best interests, and I don't have nothing to retire on or even a way to retire. This is sick....

The American system is in bad need of overhaul in fixing it to operate in the best interests of the people, not just the few billionaires. "For the people, by the people" is what it needs to revert to. It needs companies and billionaires with the intent to innovate products for the domestic and global markets to create jobs, new opportunities, and new wealth while truly protecting long term interests instead of sacrificing it all for short term capital gains. It's cold and stagnated as can be, like an old person dying of cancer. It's sic...
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

US Official Quizzed Over Blackwater Stepping Down

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A senior US State Department official quizzed over family links to a private security firm accused of killing civilians in Iraq has announced he is stepping down, the department said on Friday.

Howard Krongard, an inspector general in the State Department involved in overseeing some of its private contractors, announced he would retire on January 15, in a letter to President George W. Bush released by the department.



He had been accused by the chairman of a congressional committee monitoring US involvement in Iraq of blocking investigations into contracting fraud and arms smuggling there.

He was also summoned to hearings in Congress over his brother Alvin's alleged involvement with the security firm Blackwater, whose guards opened fire in a crowded Baghdad neighborhood on September 16 as they guarded a State Department convoy.

Blackwater said its guards came under attack.

Henry Waxman, the chairman of the committee whose work includes monitoring private contractors operating in Iraq, last month reported conflicting testimonies by the brothers about Alvin Krongard's links to the firm.

Howard Krongard testified that his brother had told him he was not on the board of Blackwater USA and had no connections to the firm. But Alvin Krongard later told committee staff that he did tell his brother about his links to it.

"We thank him for his dedication to public service and wish him well in the future," State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos said, announcing Krongard's decision ... to retire.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usiraqpoliticssecurityresign;_ylt=Aidc.c4_RRoZgbFlNdmuGHoDW7oF
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